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jeff47

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67. The entire point is I don't have a good idea for consequeces

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:06 PM

Feb 2013

If I was a complete sociopath, the idea of denying aid would be appropriate - they voted for limited government that would not help them, and they'd be getting what they voted for.

But I'm not a sociopath. I don't think denying them aid is a good thing. I want the voters to realize they are not getting what they voted for - they're getting more than they voted for.

More to the point, I would like the voters to realize government is not pure evil. It can help them, and will help them in this case. And I'd like them to make their voting decisions based on that new knowledge.

But I don't expect that to happen. The senators will run on "government is evil", and "government can't help people". And the Teabaggers will eat it up, even if they just cashed a check from FEMA.

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Last night while tornadoes sruck Miss. & Ala. some Du-ers were arguing for NO aid for victims. [View all] dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 OP

I would repost the links. If people think they can say that SHIT, they can say it to EVERYONE! patrice Feb 2013 #1

Bless their hearts, some people just can't wait to bash on those they love to hate n/t Fumesucker Feb 2013 #2

really dg.. link this stuff annabanana Feb 2013 #3

lookie here DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #82

I've had to correct people on that Aerows Feb 2013 #129

Liberals and Democrats tend to wrap themselves in a comfy blanket The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2013 #4

Of course I want to advocate gov't help for these Americans, but we equally should point out the Rectangle Feb 2013 #47

of course nobody should be denied aid, just because their reps (and the people who voted for niyad Feb 2013 #5

As I recall, 31 Republican Senators voted against Sandy aid, probably including the two from indepat Feb 2013 #6

Ditto. elleng Feb 2013 #15

IIRC, the MS delegation voted for Sandy relief. intheflow Feb 2013 #119

And you would be wrong Aerows Feb 2013 #127

Some DU'rs see life through a prism defined by party. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #7

bingo Marrah_G Feb 2013 #8

+1 n/t Catherina Feb 2013 #10

Welcome to DU.... tammywammy Feb 2013 #9

We got some backwards thinking on this forum davidn3600 Feb 2013 #11

This is NOT who we are! Bake Feb 2013 #12

There are times when I'd love to say exactly what I feel kentauros Feb 2013 #140

A small minority with small minds, small consciences and small hearts Catherina Feb 2013 #13

I doubt it, elleng Feb 2013 #14

Not so sure. Straw Man Feb 2013 #19

Guess so. elleng Feb 2013 #20

Some people treat politics like professional sports. Straw Man Feb 2013 #16

kick Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 #17

At the risk of becoming another pariah in your eyes; greiner3 Feb 2013 #18

The problem with the Intertubes is that every stupid asshole has a voice Burma Jones Feb 2013 #21

It is right to point out the hypocracy - but not to oppose aid. Tom Rinaldo Feb 2013 #22

I am going to take another shower--just read some of the comments in the first linked post-- niyad Feb 2013 #23

Kick cordelia Feb 2013 #24

K & R Sissyk Feb 2013 #25

They did it last week during the Georgia tornadoes as well Glitterati Feb 2013 #26

It's like Robertson condemning disaster areas for sins, it feels the same way and is wrong. freshwest Feb 2013 #143

I was not one of the people saying they deserved no aid notadmblnd Feb 2013 #27

Tornado season is just getting cranked up! MuseRider Feb 2013 #28

I think we are all guilty redstatebluegirl Feb 2013 #29

I think you meant "Republicans voted against Federal aid" for victims of Hurricane Sandy, right? Chorophyll Feb 2013 #30

Ah yes. I was in that first--uh--person's sights. He represents DU like the RW represents MS. nolabear Feb 2013 #31

We do Aerows Feb 2013 #130

And I'm a MS and nola transplant to the PNW. Days like today I miss it mightily. Happy Mardi Gras! nolabear Feb 2013 #131

Laissez les bons temps rouler, cher :) Aerows Feb 2013 #132

Probably smart. I hear it's a rainy one. And I am NOT as young as I once was! nolabear Feb 2013 #133

I remember a Mardi Gras Aerows Feb 2013 #135

Pretty disgusted.. Texasgal Feb 2013 #32

It's not just southern bashing--it's state bashing. I live in Arizona and panader0 Feb 2013 #33

I understand that... Texasgal Feb 2013 #34

State bashing, ignorant stereo typing and REAL stupid thinking.. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #35

Elections have consequences jeff47 Feb 2013 #36

Go right ahead. Punish those politicians Glitterati Feb 2013 #37

Would be nice if you bothered to read my post before replying. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2013 #38

I read it. Glitterati Feb 2013 #39

So you just decided to ignore the parts where I said not to deny aid. jeff47 Feb 2013 #42

Your sermons are the problem Glitterati Feb 2013 #44

I'm having severe doubts about your claim to read what I write jeff47 Feb 2013 #53

You are coming through loud and clear Glitterati Feb 2013 #59

Considering you still think I want to deny aid jeff47 Feb 2013 #71

In your own words Glitterati Feb 2013 #72

Because I only wrote one sentence. jeff47 Feb 2013 #118

Amen Aerows Feb 2013 #134

Stand 'em up in front of the House and Senate and throw rotten tomatoes at them. Bake Feb 2013 #41

Even better idea..... Glitterati Feb 2013 #43

I like that! but AFTER the tomato-ing! Bake Feb 2013 #49

Can you clarify Texasgal Feb 2013 #45

You know exactly what he/she meant Glitterati Feb 2013 #48

I assure you I can speak for myself. jeff47 Feb 2013 #51

You might consider that you're speaking on/for DU as well Glitterati Feb 2013 #61

Here, lemme help jeff47 Feb 2013 #69

You made yourself entirely clear Glitterati Feb 2013 #76

That electing evil bastards who would deny such aid to others should have consequences. jeff47 Feb 2013 #50

I am really trying to get this Texasgal Feb 2013 #55

The entire point is I don't have a good idea for consequeces jeff47 Feb 2013 #67

I completely understand your position. Texasgal Feb 2013 #73

Your point is completely invalid Glitterati Feb 2013 #74

So now you don't want to send any disaster aid? jeff47 Feb 2013 #83

Normally, we don't request federal aid Glitterati Feb 2013 #87

The answer to your question is "No, not on stuff like this." Posteritatis Feb 2013 #68

And if you bothered to read what I wrote, you'd find I'm not calling for that. jeff47 Feb 2013 #70

Here's a clue, Jeff Glitterati Feb 2013 #84

Here's a clue for you jeff47 Feb 2013 #86

No it's not Glitterati Feb 2013 #88

Can't even read the title of the thread? jeff47 Feb 2013 #117

If folks in the south have such an abundance of compassion, Moses2SandyKoufax Feb 2013 #90

Write and ask Glitterati Feb 2013 #91

Great answer. n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Feb 2013 #92

You don't deserve any more than you got. Deal with it. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #94

Excellent. Succinct and straight to the heart of the matter. cordelia Feb 2013 #101

I deserve an answer. Moses2SandyKoufax Feb 2013 #102

You deserve nothing Glitterati Feb 2013 #104

I said great plains AND southwest. Moses2SandyKoufax Feb 2013 #106

Oh, you mean the Northeast? Glitterati Feb 2013 #107

California! They'll be surprised they've been lumped in Glitterati Feb 2013 #109

That southern "education" of yours has failed you terribly. Moses2SandyKoufax Feb 2013 #110

Oh honey, I was educated in the midwest Glitterati Feb 2013 #112

Southern Dems do what they can Texasgal Feb 2013 #105

+1000 CokeMachine Feb 2013 #142

If you don't understand that these reps can vote any way they want once they get in office.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #93

These reps campaign on anti-government sentiment. Moses2SandyKoufax Feb 2013 #97

Yep....just how I thought you would respond....s-squared, d-squared. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #98

You don't know that, you can't know that Glitterati Feb 2013 #99

The problem is those same representatives are screwing over their own state. However, it should be still_one Feb 2013 #115

Is THAT what the senators from AL and MS did? Are you sure? hughee99 Feb 2013 #136

DURec, and prayers for the suffering. bvar22 Feb 2013 #40

may we always hold ourselves to a higher standard than republicans dembotoz Feb 2013 #46

Exactly ripcord Feb 2013 #123

Yeah I completely reject that bs attitude of youre either with us or against us Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #52

That's the beauty of the strong sense of community in southern small towns. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #60

I agree. Texasgal Feb 2013 #62

Unlike most places we KNOW our neighbors Glitterati Feb 2013 #63

I haven't quite figured out why so many supposed "liberals" make such hateful comments.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #54

Irrational AND Stupid! N/T Texasgal Feb 2013 #56

Reflex reaction. People hear the haters from the South and fail to recognize bluestate10 Feb 2013 #95

i would vote against a Democratic Senator/Congress person who votes against Aid JI7 Feb 2013 #57

heres one :/ Go Vols Feb 2013 #141

I think they should get all the aid they need bluestateguy Feb 2013 #58

When I do come across one of these posts... LanternWaste Feb 2013 #64

I find your words comforting and helpful. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #65

I am sorry to see that damage. I personally want help sent right away. bluestate10 Feb 2013 #66

whoever said that are assholes not worthy of the attention they seek. Whisp Feb 2013 #75

Maybe they were just trying to make the point that very red states treestar Feb 2013 #77

it's hard not to take it personally Texasgal Feb 2013 #79

If you and they know there are liberals living in Red States than why don't you and they think.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #96

You see, it's those all knowing, smart northerners who shove that money down here Glitterati Feb 2013 #100

Unfortunately it IS that Texasgal Feb 2013 #103

They are bashing the State itself. treestar Feb 2013 #149

That's NOT their intent, and you should know that. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #150

Says who? treestar Feb 2013 #151

Good-bye and good luck. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #152

They should get their aid, but their legislators should be held up for ridicule. n/t Ian David Feb 2013 #78

As if they won't by us Southern Dems? Texasgal Feb 2013 #80

I mean he should have to stand next to Obama and be publicly dressed-down... Ian David Feb 2013 #81

Don't you mean IF Obama shows up Glitterati Feb 2013 #89

If aid is needed (it is) xmas74 Feb 2013 #85

Didn't we already have one post like this? n-t Logical Feb 2013 #108

Dunno. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #113

I think one scolding is enough. n-t Logical Feb 2013 #116

Get a grip. intheflow Feb 2013 #120

But one can never have too many "blame the victims" posts, right? cordelia Feb 2013 #122

That was last week - Georgia tornadoes Glitterati Feb 2013 #114

Perspective is everything, and disasters have no political affiliation. still_one Feb 2013 #111

In AL, Macon county went for Obama by 87% ... eppur_se_muova Feb 2013 #121

The state requested Fed. aid for tornado disasters in 2011 and 2012. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #124

BOTH Senators from MS Aerows Feb 2013 #125

Maybe we need to put that in a sig line.... dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #126

No kidding! Aerows Feb 2013 #128

You don't believe most DUers take that attitude, I assume. MADem Feb 2013 #137

I said " some Du-ers" and "more than one DU member " dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #139

I am just trying to tamp down the "j'accuse" vibe before it has a chance to MADem Feb 2013 #144

The cooking.....ohhhh yeah. Deep fried everything. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #145

Barbecue. Chicken and waffles. Fried okra. A thousand iterations of mac-n-cheese. MADem Feb 2013 #147

+1 HiPointDem Feb 2013 #138

Think you meant Sandy, not Sandy Hook. hay rick Feb 2013 #146

lol..you are right...I meant Sandy dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #148