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cleanhippie

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90. Really? How can you possibly get that from the video?

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:32 PM

Feb 2013

Had the OP not front-loaded you with information NOT available in the video, how sould one possibly come to that conclusion?

How is the OP making the claims she made regarding what is actually taking place here?

The video open with two cops holding and searching a person on the sidewalk, followed my more cops arriving and yes, using what may appear to be excessive force (from what we have been shown here) to place him in custody.

The OP's claim of "...for only eating sunflower seeds on the sidewalk" is not supported by this video, nor is ANYTHING she claims.

When, where was this taken? Where is the WHOLE video? Where can one see it in it's entirety so that proper context can be given and the viewer has a better idea of what is actually happening here?

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LAPD are domestic terrorists. [View all] Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 OP

It looks like another lame cop-hating thread to me slackmaster Feb 2013 #1

I will personally escort you to Skid Row to say that to this man, who was beaten by Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #3

The video is lacking in context. What happened for the several minutes before it starts? slackmaster Feb 2013 #6

Again: I've done copwatch on Skid Row, as have those who posted the video. Have you? Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #10

I don't know who you are. I don't know the people who made the video. slackmaster Feb 2013 #14

I know the people who recorded the video. LAPD do things like that on a whim Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #17

What is the date the video was taken? What's the name of the man who was beaten? What... slackmaster Feb 2013 #20

Dictionary flaming? Nice. If 16 cops beating a single black homeless man doesn't give you pause Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #25

You can't answer any of my questions. slackmaster Feb 2013 #53

You wouldn't even watch the video. You don't deserve even this reply. You want answers, Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #59

You asked "What then does this look like to you?" and I gave you an initial impression slackmaster Feb 2013 #62

I'm sure they'd LOVE to hear from you. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #73

ROFL's? Are you aware that the only thing accomplished here was to undermine your own OP? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #81

Please read my reply to his first post. That poster has zero credibility in this thread. n/t Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #83

Great. So what. This is not about his credibility, it's about the credibility of that video. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #86

It is from the LA Community Action Network, or LA CAN. Right-click to back-link to their youtube Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #89

Again, you respond with obfuscation to the questions being asked, seemingly because they cannot be cleanhippie Feb 2013 #94

If you'd just spent the time you've used on that post in contacting LA CAN to ask the questions you Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #103

Thank you for showing all reading this thread that you care little about context and reality... cleanhippie Feb 2013 #110

My agenda is to present a clear depiction of police brutality. If you cannot get that from what is Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #120

Then you have FAILED to "present a clear depiction of police brutality." cleanhippie Feb 2013 #122

If you want to get your LAPD brutality porn, here are links to my current GD threads: Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #126

Ok, thanks. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #127

As it turns out, the video has been on the Web for nearly seven years. slackmaster Feb 2013 #98

I am sure that NOTHING like that goes on today... Bennyboy Feb 2013 #118

I'e seen it too. In Denver donheld Feb 2013 #151

You made the comment before even WATCHING the video. EOTE Feb 2013 #28

x2 AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #31

Slackmaster has a gun fetish Tempest Feb 2013 #33

Apparently it's not just guns with him DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2013 #56

he's a conservative troll fucker.. frylock Feb 2013 #69

DELETE--Wrong place. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #106

Wow! Rex Feb 2013 #131

believe me when i tell you that i was frylock Feb 2013 #137

I know how you feel BainsBane Feb 2013 #139

I do. Rex Feb 2013 #146

+1000000000000000 RetroLounge Feb 2013 #147

The first 10 seconds were enough to make it obvious that it doesn't support the OP's narrative slackmaster Feb 2013 #51

You didn't watch a damned thing before making your comment. EOTE Feb 2013 #57

So what? This is an open discussion. The OP solicited opinions, and I gave my initial reaction. slackmaster Feb 2013 #60

You gave your initial reaction before watching the video. EOTE Feb 2013 #64

Bullshit slackmaster Feb 2013 #65

You already admitted to it. You're not fooling anyone. EOTE Feb 2013 #66

I solicited opinions, but opinions based upon actually having watched the video. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #71

I wacthed the entire thing. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #88

I wasn't replying to you, I was replying to the resident police apologist who DIDN'T watch the video EOTE Feb 2013 #99

Do you know when this was taken? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #101

About 5 years ago. NT EOTE Feb 2013 #102

And do you know wher one might find the beginning of the video that we do not get to see? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #107

If I did, I would have told you already. EOTE Feb 2013 #111

I've looked too, with no luck. I remain skeptical about the claims made by the OP. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #114

The context is that members of the LAPD are beating the shit out of someone who is not resisting EOTE Feb 2013 #116

"cleanippie" is here to shout us down for some unimaginable reason. Don't respond to it. I'm done. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #121

I guess he's one of those "Give due respect and deference to the cops who beat the shit out of EOTE Feb 2013 #123

Yeah. Confuses me as well. n/t Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #125

What does sthat have to do with the fact that this video lacks ANY context at all. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #80

Why is it so very difficult for people to understand that 16 cops putting a defenseless homeless man Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #92

HOW DOES THE VIEWER KNOW THIS IS A DEFENSLESS HOMELESS MAN? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #96

Good Lord. YES, the video is from 2008. I thought I'd included that in the OP along with the Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #117

YOU POSTED THIS! WHY DO I NEED TO ASK SOMEONE ELSE ABOUT WHAT YOU POSTED? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #119

Because they can answer all of your questions, better than I could? Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #128

You seem unable to answer ANY questions about the video. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #129

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #32

LAPD is out of control nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #7

Please see reply #6 slackmaster Feb 2013 #9

Please study the history of LAPD. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #11

Given your occupation, I'm a bit surprised at your lack of curiosity about this incident. slackmaster Feb 2013 #22

I ask them nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #26

I'm aware of the LAPD's history. The OP has not presented a convincing case that this incident... slackmaster Feb 2013 #58

Remember when Dorner released a statement admitting he killed people? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #87

It's been almost seven years since the video in the OP was uploaded to YouTube slackmaster Feb 2013 #95

I'm guessing it did not resolve in the OPs favor otherwise we would have heard about it Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #100

Yet you refused to watch it. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #143

No, I've watched it all the way through twice slackmaster Feb 2013 #144

And...this is not new nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #145

Bullshit. looks like cops beat a man for sunflower seeds. ret5hd Feb 2013 #8

They replied without having even watched a minute of the video, much less the end. Check the time Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #12

Two things you'll never get from Slackmaster Tempest Feb 2013 #34

Ah. Thank you. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #35

I don't see any sunflower seeds in the video slackmaster Feb 2013 #13

Cops swarming and beating a man who is simply trying to be left alone is not obvious? Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #16

The cops are already on the guy at the start of the video slackmaster Feb 2013 #21

He was black and homeless. If you do not know that in itself is enough, you are not paying attention Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #23

Really? How can you possibly get that from the video? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #90

Seriously, why can't more DUers be completely apathetic to police brutality like you are? EOTE Feb 2013 #24

Did you note that they did not even watch the video before their initial reply? Check the post times Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #27

I did note that. EOTE Feb 2013 #29

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #44

No they don't. zappaman Feb 2013 #50

yes, they do datasuspect Feb 2013 #52

oops. zappaman Feb 2013 #78

you're the expert on lame frylock Feb 2013 #68

Go play with your guns, slackmaster. Downtown Hound Feb 2013 #82

They are out of control Marrah_G Feb 2013 #2

On a rampage. libtodeath Feb 2013 #4

I think the word terrorist is vastly overused in this country cali Feb 2013 #5

Terrorism is the systematic use of terror, especially violent terror as a form of coercion. EOTE Feb 2013 #30

actually, not. cali Feb 2013 #54

Christ, you need some learning comprehension. EOTE Feb 2013 #61

lol. and you need some reading comprehension cali Feb 2013 #72

Plagiarism my ass, terrorism has a fairly simple definition. EOTE Feb 2013 #74

Classic plagiarism. word for word theft of a quote with nothing cali Feb 2013 #79

You're saying that these men who employ terrorist tactics... EOTE Feb 2013 #84

No, I simply tried to make the point that the word terrorist is overused. duh. cali Feb 2013 #105

No, you tried to make the point that the LAPD are NOT terrorists. EOTE Feb 2013 #109

what, what, what? Now you're just ridiculous. cali Feb 2013 #112

Silly me, going by your actual words. I should have known you'd want me to use your thoughts EOTE Feb 2013 #115

LAPD fits the definition Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #141

A second African American Former LAPD Officer posted his Manifesto on FB last night Catherina Feb 2013 #15

Shh, inconvenient. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #18

What does the home invasion have to do with police misconduct? dkf Feb 2013 #38

LA sheriffs are just as bad. Please see my current post in GD about the Jump Out Boys. n/t Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #42

I don't know if they are domestic terrorists. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #19

Cop bad. Bread good. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #36

LAPD are corrupt and must be thoroughly revised. On local mainstream media they are damning Dorner Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #46

Most attempts to out corruption are best served Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #55

I do not condone his ALLEGED murders (innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, remember) Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #70

You mean LAPD's ALLEGED murders, then. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #75

Alleged, such as this? WARNING: GRAPHIC Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #97

Yes, alleged, using your criteria. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #133

Then I'll be clear...I have seen zero evidence that Chris Dorner has committed the crimes Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #135

Agreed, at long last. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #136

Sorry for any confusion on my part. It's been a long...thread ;) Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #138

"LAPD are domestic terrorists"? Yes, if you consider the US Code and the FBI's definition: AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #37

Yes. And as an Occupy activist in LA, I can assure you that they are using force and threat and Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #40

"Stop resisting!" polly7 Feb 2013 #39

They shout that so that they have "proof" in court. :( Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #41

Aw, that makes sense. Pretty bad actors, those cops. nt. polly7 Feb 2013 #48

I hesistate, in this day and age, to apply the word "terrorist" to anybody or any group, MadHound Feb 2013 #43

Why does every lowlife thug, murderer, and sadist have to be a terrorist as well? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #45

When I see all those cops converge on this one guy, so MANY tblue37 Feb 2013 #47

You are seeing correctly. Iggo Feb 2013 #67

I see plenty of cops standing there to block the camera the best they can. Incitatus Feb 2013 #91

I've encountered them doing so over and over. I was assaulted once for attempting to record them Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #104

No, they aren't. zappaman Feb 2013 #49

Oh, quelle surprise RetroLounge Feb 2013 #148

Yay, Cops! Iggo Feb 2013 #63

Seen it all before with edgineered Feb 2013 #76

Exactly what Burgess was writing about. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #142

Good to see an enlightened mind, ergo a fine sig also. nt edgineered Feb 2013 #149

Cops need to be held accountable for their own good. limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #77

How are you making the claims you made regarding what is actually taking place here? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #85

Look what I found on YouTube - "Uploaded on Jul 25, 2008" slackmaster Feb 2013 #93

Yes, that is the video from the OP. All you have to do is right-click and open in a new tab to see Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #108

I don't have a right mouse button, but that's beside the point. slackmaster Feb 2013 #113

I've updated the OP to include the date of the video as well as the source. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #124

Regardless of the date, it is certainly related to Beck's calling Dorner a "domestic terrorist." AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #134

Once upon a time I was married to a member of the local constabulary. PDJane Feb 2013 #130

Shout-out to those who have kept this thread kicked no matter their intent! Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #132

Anyone who denies this as an act of injustice or being excusable is wrong edgineered Feb 2013 #140

The problem is, you are using a murderer as a crutch. Zax2me Feb 2013 #150