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Cal33

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17. "I smell Rove." The all-time big and weird sicko. I wonder how much longer this "era of sickos"
Thu Dec 15, 2011, 07:39 PM
Dec 2011

will last. Nothing stays forever in this world of ours. There always will be changes -- ups
followed by downs.

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I trust the ACLU. Hell Hath No Fury Dec 2011 #1
I trust and support the ACLU also. But how long has this new National Defense bill Cal33 Dec 2011 #7
Here's from ACLU today. Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #14
If we said we trusted President Obama treestar Dec 2011 #43
Where do intend to learn more? dogknob Dec 2011 #2
Unfortunately, I don't know of any source that will provide reliable last-minue information. Cal33 Dec 2011 #11
ACLU, CCR and Human Rights Watch all can do that. nt EFerrari Dec 2011 #16
Thanks for the information. Cal33 Dec 2011 #26
What happened to his promise to close Gitmo? rhett o rick Dec 2011 #3
Actually, passing this bill could enable him to finally do that. phleshdef Dec 2011 #10
it gives this President and ANY FUTURE President the power to detain or not indefinitely. period. piratefish08 Dec 2011 #28
Only if you believe in oversimplified, wholly inaccurate bullshit. phleshdef Dec 2011 #39
More rational thinking Anatos Dec 2011 #52
Then read parts of the bill.. SomethingFishy Dec 2011 #4
I clicked on the link above and got another link. I clicked on the second link Cal33 Dec 2011 #27
I like the Library of Congress "Thomas" site for reading legislation bhikkhu Dec 2011 #57
Many thanks. I do appreciate it. Cal33 Dec 2011 #59
We're leaving Iraq ... and the last thing we should do is know that. JoePhilly Dec 2011 #5
Thanks for bringing a note of sanity to the frenzy flamingdem Dec 2011 #6
If you see me post "Obama Bad Obama Bad Obama Bad" ... JoePhilly Dec 2011 #8
Obama can stop being bad and Congress can stop being worse and much of it would solve TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #21
Ohhhh scary .... get the fainting couch. JoePhilly Dec 2011 #29
There was something in the OP about reading legislation before jumping to conclusions... bhikkhu Dec 2011 #58
He doesn't make it very difficult for them to do that. nt Modern_Matthew Dec 2011 #46
How so? Anatos Dec 2011 #53
"Because to keep ratings UP, they need the election to be close." I assume Cal33 Dec 2011 #15
You have pretty much nailed what is going on. emulatorloo Dec 2011 #19
On that ratings thing... Anatos Dec 2011 #24
Once the GOP picks their "ahem" candidate ... JoePhilly Dec 2011 #38
You act as if Anatos Dec 2011 #47
Oh sure ... no disagreement that they would pretend to not JoePhilly Dec 2011 #54
They already are Anatos Dec 2011 #55
It's annoying. redqueen Dec 2011 #42
It is all about Anatos Dec 2011 #48
I smell Rove roseBudd Dec 2011 #9
Try toothpaste. Robb Dec 2011 #12
Or Lysol :) Ship of Fools Dec 2011 #13
"I smell Rove." The all-time big and weird sicko. I wonder how much longer this "era of sickos" Cal33 Dec 2011 #17
I could have done without Obama lying he was going to veto the bill. provis99 Dec 2011 #18
Mixed feelings karynnj Dec 2011 #20
No, he cannot because it only covers his administration. He should veto or fucking resign. TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #22
You know they do these appropriations bills every year, right? Robb Dec 2011 #31
How maddeningly cerebral of you Anatos Dec 2011 #23
Just a day or two ago I wrote in this forum that if someone like Sanders were to run Cal33 Dec 2011 #25
I honestly have no problem Anatos Dec 2011 #49
I'm pretty much convinced that the extremists of any political party, the fanatics in short, are Cal33 Dec 2011 #56
So...the mandatory insurance bill...makes indefinite detention of US citizens OK? Romulox Dec 2011 #30
I was just pointing out that I heard so many complaints about the Healthcare Reform Cal33 Dec 2011 #33
The "Healthcare Reform" bill forces Americans to buy private insurance; it's awful, and by no Romulox Dec 2011 #34
I admitted there were weaknesses in the Healthcare Reform bill, and also said that Cal33 Dec 2011 #37
That is all they got. comipinko Dec 2011 #36
Nor would I Anatos Dec 2011 #50
The OP claimed it was all too complicated for her, and that we should just trust authority. Romulox Dec 2011 #60
The OP claimed no such thing Anatos Dec 2011 #61
I miss the unrec. Logical Dec 2011 #32
From what I've seen Anatos Dec 2011 #51
A big UN-REC !! comipinko Dec 2011 #35
Trying to find anything good in that bill is like trying to find the clean end of a turd. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2011 #40
My intention was not to make this bill look good. I was simply saying to take Cal33 Dec 2011 #41
80%? I get better odds at the nearest tribal casino derby378 Dec 2011 #44
He should have vetoed it based on spending alone... Modern_Matthew Dec 2011 #45
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