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joshcryer

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19. Looks like the governor is on board, mayor definitley is, they have other counties on board.

Reply to BeHereNow (Reply #15)

Sun Jan 29, 2012, 12:52 AM

Jan 2012

Just now a county bus from another county came in to help truck the people away.

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Where is our President on intervening in the FUBAR situation in Oakland? [View all] BeHereNow Jan 2012 OP

I like Obama a lot and will vote for him gopiscrap Jan 2012 #1

This is NOT a left or right matter- BeHereNow Jan 2012 #4

This is a corporatists vs. WeThePeople matter. And there are an amazing number of DU'ers that rhett o rick Jan 2012 #8

It is disgusting. BeHereNow Jan 2012 #12

Then go lay your body down for your cause. cliffordu Jan 2012 #14

Really? BeHereNow Jan 2012 #20

incredibly ugly and revealing, isn't it. inna Jan 2012 #94

She was living there- back home now, but has many friends there. BeHereNow Jan 2012 #110

I've made the trip many times- and I will again if this continues. BeHereNow Jan 2012 #28

CRICKETS... BeHereNow Jan 2012 #75

I'll tell ya when you get back from Oakland. cliffordu Jan 2012 #113

LMFAO.. "require" SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #131

In other words, this is a 1% vs. 99% matter. And we all know which side Obama is on. n/t Raksha Jan 2012 #72

It certainly isnt a D's vs. R's as some would have us believe. That's a distraction. nm rhett o rick Jan 2012 #85

I agree with you BHN but the sad reality is gopiscrap Jan 2012 #25

Copied and Pasted from Tabatha- PREGNANT woman struck in the stomach with baton????? BeHereNow Jan 2012 #2

Its a State matter first. elleng Jan 2012 #3

Good question- I'd like to know. BeHereNow Jan 2012 #7

Surely, if the State asks for Federal assistance, it will get it. elleng Jan 2012 #13

Federal assistance for what? nt hack89 Jan 2012 #90

Was responding to #7, elleng Jan 2012 #92

Not sure there is anything to get under control hack89 Jan 2012 #104

If the federal government can trump the states in marajuana sales rhett o rick Jan 2012 #11

No government in the history of the world has come out on the side of protesters. joshcryer Jan 2012 #21

Well, our Gov't came out to protect labor by threatening the use of Federal troops Dragonfli Jan 2012 #27

Semla was judicially backed. joshcryer Jan 2012 #33

The Government came out on the side of the protesters did it not? Dragonfli Jan 2012 #41

No, the courts did. joshcryer Jan 2012 #44

This government came out under LBJ to protect African Americans during the Civil Rights era. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #54

One can hope. joshcryer Jan 2012 #57

Jerry Brown was the mayor of Oakland before he became governor XemaSab Jan 2012 #40

Yes, and what the heck he's doing, or NOT doing, about it. elleng Jan 2012 #49

Under the law added by Bush II in 2007 with no known opposition from Obama, a state is not required AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #97

More tweets from Rowley tabatha Jan 2012 #5

He's only the Chief Civil Rights Enforcer Your beef is with the Republicans, lol. K&R (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #6

Are you serious? "LOL??????" BeHereNow Jan 2012 #9

Lol! T S Justly Jan 2012 #16

Seriously- WHAT are you laughing about? BeHereNow Jan 2012 #29

Oh, I suppose it's the adulation O will continue to enjoy around here by some, despite the glaring T S Justly Jan 2012 #46

While the President deplores this treatment of American citizens Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #10

Well somebody needs to declare a "State of Emergency" BeHereNow Jan 2012 #15

Looks like the governor is on board, mayor definitley is, they have other counties on board. joshcryer Jan 2012 #19

"Truck people away" for WHAT? BeHereNow Jan 2012 #30

Good question. They'd taken the YMCA, I hope it's not criminal trespass. joshcryer Jan 2012 #35

My understanding is that they didn't "take" the Y XemaSab Jan 2012 #45

That's fair enough, though I don't see the cops seeing it that way. joshcryer Jan 2012 #48

The word on the street is that four busloads of people SO FAR XemaSab Jan 2012 #53

I saw five pull up when I signed off and two others had come and gone. joshcryer Jan 2012 #56

They didn't take the YMCA. They used it as a means of escape from the kettling by the police. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #87

Soylent green of course Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #112

There is no state of emergency hack89 Jan 2012 #91

Right 100% elleng Jan 2012 #17

Bullshit. So let the innocent get hammered until injuries and deaths result? (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #22

Yes the example set at Selma was a bad call by Johnson... Dragonfli Jan 2012 #31

You leave out the fact that Williams v. Wallace was a judicial court decision to allow the march. joshcryer Jan 2012 #36

You leave out the part that allows us to assemble and make our grievances known Dragonfli Jan 2012 #47

They had to get special permission, though. The government didn't "act" until they got it. joshcryer Jan 2012 #51

That is contrary to the law added by Bush II in 2007 with no known opposition from Obama. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #98

Where is 'Moonbeam' Brown at? Zalatix Jan 2012 #18

Campaigning. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #65

I suppose the next thing you will call him is "Medfly" Raine Jan 2012 #67

Naw, I voted for him. I voted for the 'Moonbeam' the Repugs hated so much. Zalatix Jan 2012 #86

Because it is not appropriate for Obama to interfere in State and Local Police matters. Lil Missy Jan 2012 #23

see post 31 and denounce Johnson's actions if you think they were wrong! Dragonfli Jan 2012 #32

That is contrary to the statute added in 2007 by Bush II with no known opposition from Obama. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #100

Californians need to contact Gov Brown and get the State Police to intervene and disband Oakland PD tabatha Jan 2012 #24

What I want to know is... BeHereNow Jan 2012 #26

Lol. Now, that's funny! (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #34

Why is that funny to you? BeHereNow Jan 2012 #38

Remember JFK in 1963. Anyone who says that a President cannot take action against state AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #37

Wow thanks for your contribution to this thread. BeHereNow Jan 2012 #39

By posting your question, you contributed more than I did. Peace. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #42

Namaste, my friend. n/t BeHereNow Jan 2012 #43

That's ProSense Jan 2012 #50

I think most, like myself simply assume his complicity, they are his state troopers Dragonfli Jan 2012 #55

Right ProSense Jan 2012 #83

The president should send in troops anytime no other authority will protect citizens from assault Dragonfli Jan 2012 #111

It's insulting to actual civil rights issues... JSnuffy Jan 2012 #123

Thank you very much for the information. Raksha Jan 2012 #73

Not the same AT ALL- Alabama was violating a Federal court order Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #114

The law already authorizes Obama to protect citizens from the Oakland police without a court order. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #119

Citing DU threads is not exactly the ultimate authority Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #121

The full text of Public Law 109-364 is the law. It is the authority referred to in the DU post. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #122

Public Law 109-364? The John Warner Act? Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #124

I'm sorry that you've "never seen any reference to [P.L. 109-364] authorizing anything." AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #125

Apology accepted Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #132

This would be more appropriately handled by Governor Brown. Cleita Jan 2012 #52

Many said the same thing about George Wallace, they were wrong IMHO Dragonfli Jan 2012 #58

The federal courts ordered Wallace to allow it, he still refused. joshcryer Jan 2012 #59

Under the statute added by Bush II in 2007, a court order is not required. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #101

You summed it up perfectly. BeHereNow Jan 2012 #60

If Brown is in fact looking the other way, then the President should step in, however, Cleita Jan 2012 #61

Brown, like Obama, is busy campaigning. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #63

So maybe Occupy needs to occupy the State Capitol where his offices are or Cleita Jan 2012 #93

When a federal court steps in. geek tragedy Jan 2012 #62

In 1973, without the intervention of a court, the Federal government sent Federal Marshals AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #64

Yeah ProSense Jan 2012 #84

Was there a federal court ruling to shut down marijuana clinics in states where it is legal? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #88

Jurisdiction was established in 2007 when Bush II signed a particular statute. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #102

If it is true that Obama cannot act until a court order is obtained, what's preventing Holder from AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #66

Obama! T S Justly Jan 2012 #68

And Johnny Cash sang... BeHereNow Jan 2012 #69

Don't give a shit what you think of me. Who you like in 2012? (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #70

"Who you like in 2012?" Is that a trick question? BeHereNow Jan 2012 #71

Sorry got sideways with you, thinking prematurely. Namaste. (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #74

Huh? Care to clarify the meaning of your post? BeHereNow Jan 2012 #76

Then, we're back to the question you avoided. Who will you support in 2012 ... T S Justly Jan 2012 #77

Back at ya- WHO will YOU support? BeHereNow Jan 2012 #78

The first progressive who comes along and takes the nomination and the leadership of the Party ... T S Justly Jan 2012 #79

Well of course I would support such a person- got one up your sleeve by chance? BeHereNow Jan 2012 #80

And if this mythical figure should fail to materialize- then what? BeHereNow Jan 2012 #81

Obama appears to be more supportive of the financial industry than of OWS. Quantess Jan 2012 #82

With Jerry Brown perhaps? nt hack89 Jan 2012 #89

Looks like Occupy Oakland may have been infiltrated by assholes. gulliver Jan 2012 #95

Yep. How many are on the Oakland Police payroll? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #103

The probability of that is vanishingly small, imo. gulliver Jan 2012 #106

Boy, are you behind times Remember Me Jan 2012 #128

Seeing the picture posted on another thread, I agree. gulliver Jan 2012 #129

As a veteran of the anti war movement, there are others who pay these idiots Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #116

Please learn about the separation of powers treestar Jan 2012 #96

your condescension is misplaced and uncalled for inna Jan 2012 #108

It is placed and called for treestar Jan 2012 #126

Not so. bluestate10 Jan 2012 #130

Silence. Rex Jan 2012 #99

What action do you think the President should take? MineralMan Jan 2012 #105

denounce police brutality, duh inna Jan 2012 #107

Exactly- I don't think the president should remain silent on the brutality of police in ANY BeHereNow Jan 2012 #109

And if he came out and said OWS groups should stop trying to take over buildings... randome Jan 2012 #115

It would be OK for him to say that governmental agent provocateurs should not take over buildings. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #120

"agent provocateurs" didn't vote for that, Occupy Oakland did, overwhelmingly. joshcryer Jan 2012 #127

I think it's a very reasonable thing to ask of the President Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #117

only if it's half a world away n/t dana_b Jan 2012 #118