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GaYellowDawg

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55. It comes down to a similar problem as with racism

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:26 AM

Feb 2013

Someone feels slighted by an individual and assigns the anger to a much broader group. I still remember a friend of mine telling me, "you piss someone off, and you've been an asshole. I piss someone off, and my whole race is called to account. That's one way you have privilege." Hit me like a ton of bricks, and that's when I understood that there was this whole range of really shitty experiences that I had been spared my whole life because of my skin color. And then the same thing applies to gender.

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You can say that "some men don't get it". You can even say that "many men don't get it". [View all] Nye Bevan Feb 2013 OP

And their efforts, among other things, have paid dividends. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #1

I hate the idea ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #7

People who hold that view think *very* little of men. nt redqueen Feb 2013 #9

That's always been my impression ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #11

Society is doing something right. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #10

Yes ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #12

That's just a correlation knightmaar Feb 2013 #13

Rape is not about consensual sex lunatica Feb 2013 #24

This. GaYellowDawg Feb 2013 #27

exactly SemperEadem Feb 2013 #59

What does it matter why the incidence of rape is dropping? EOTE Feb 2013 #17

Because they should be two different topics ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #18

The OP links to no article. EOTE Feb 2013 #21

There are more factors than pornography in those countries ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #23

Sorry, I believe words mean things. EOTE Feb 2013 #25

Damn I hope it's not an anti-porn thread...! Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #57

It's not porn they'll have to pry out of your fingers.... Raster Feb 2013 #63

hahah! :) Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #65

85%? now a days it is 1 in 4-6 women raped, depending. so it is 1 in 2? 3? women raped seabeyond Feb 2013 #32

The DOJ polls 40,000 households each year. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #38

SSRN papers have NOT been peer-reviewed. spooky3 Feb 2013 #36

His conclusions about causality aren't really the point. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #37

I said nothing about causality. spooky3 Feb 2013 #41

Then what's the problem? lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #45

Probably going too far here, but... Bigmack Feb 2013 #2

I would have to agree with you there. smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #53

k&r MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #3

I have always said that rapists should be castrated with dull, rusty butter knives... Ghost in the Machine Feb 2013 #4

That just seems cruel el_bryanto Feb 2013 #5

Would dull, rusty hedge clippers be better?? Ghost in the Machine Feb 2013 #14

Why? It's assault, not sex. There are better ways to just hurt someone if that's jtuck004 Feb 2013 #16

Assault??? It's SEXUAL ASSAULT.... Ghost in the Machine Feb 2013 #40

Has nothing to do with sex. It's about power. No more than a police officer jtuck004 Feb 2013 #46

Well I guess we will have to politely agree to disagree then, ok? Or at least see both sides Ghost in the Machine Feb 2013 #48

Ok. And yes, of course. I just don't create the distinction - I think it's about power. jtuck004 Feb 2013 #50

if it was only about sex, all men would assault passed out women Skittles Feb 2013 #56

your first example is rape SemperEadem Feb 2013 #60

I can't even think of a punishment for rape. GaYellowDawg Feb 2013 #26

I agree 1000% with your second paragraph... N/T Ghost in the Machine Feb 2013 #42

Problem would be what it does . . . caseymoz Feb 2013 #51

And thank God for that ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #6

K&R for our wonderful allies. myrna minx Feb 2013 #8

+1 nt Zorra Feb 2013 #15

k&r Little Star Feb 2013 #19

Real change comes when we honor felix_numinous Feb 2013 #20

In all fairness GaYellowDawg Feb 2013 #22

Exactly... If you reread the thread it's condemning the passivity quite clearly... bettyellen Feb 2013 #30

But there is one thing to remember GaYellowDawg Feb 2013 #34

True Ga, will try to remember that! But..... bettyellen Feb 2013 #35

It comes down to a similar problem as with racism GaYellowDawg Feb 2013 #55

That's a really good assessment! It's kind of blown bettyellen Feb 2013 #62

Sure. I'll grant you that. burnsei sensei Feb 2013 #66

Excellent!! Sissyk Feb 2013 #28

This is very, very heartening to see. whathehell Feb 2013 #29

+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #54

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2013 #31

yes. nt seabeyond Feb 2013 #33

Great OP and thread salin Feb 2013 #39

Win. WilliamPitt Feb 2013 #43

Thank you, Nye n/t Cha Feb 2013 #44

OK...the shoe pics got me. Those men really DO care, if they're willing to do that! nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #47

Yeah, that one got to me, too Warpy Feb 2013 #52

+1.nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #67

I get what you are saying, however... demmiblue Feb 2013 #49

I agree with the sentiments here, but I will not march in high heels. tclambert Feb 2013 #58

I LOVE these pictures duhneece Feb 2013 #61

You can even say that some women don't get it. Orsino Feb 2013 #64