Here's video of police shouting "burn that motherfucker" and "burn him out" as Dorner was trapped.

[TheKentuckian]

259. I think shooting up trucks loosely fitting the description of his without confirmation

he was even the driver mean surrender would be tricky, at the best and nearly impossible.

There seems to be evidence to suggest that the outcome was sought.

Perhaps more of a concern is it is so difficult to ever discuss process and living out our ideals because there is a society wide flaw that fixates on individuals to the point that systems and processes can't even be questioned without being aggressively painted as sympathy or even support for a criminal or a terrorist or a personal attack on a favored politician or party or support for the opposition.

By the same token, legitimate guilt is always individual as well. The barrel is fine and dandy no matter how many rotten apples come out of it, it must be the damn apples.

I also think we have been herded or tricked into a silly place due to Reagan and the TeaPubliKlans at least rhetorically (in actuality, they tend to expand government) as the "government is the problem" party because in response we have become the "government is good and the solution" party to the point we cannot drain any swamps or fight corruption because such things reduce trust of government. Transparency cannot be demanded because it may imply a lack of dependability and credibility. We sure as hell cannot question systems and institutions (unless the rich have questions too then fire away and cut taxes on high earners while you do it).