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In reply to the discussion: Here's video of police shouting "burn that motherfucker" and "burn him out" as Dorner was trapped. [View all]onenote
(46,217 posts)Do you know what sort of supplies and provisions he had access to in that cabin? I don't, but it wouldn't at all surprise me to learn that there were sufficient provisions there for him to hunker down for a pretty long period. So how long are the authorities supposed to maintain a "cordoned off area" (one that they can safely set up without being picked off sniper style while doing so?) And for what purpose? Assuming that they could have done so, here are the possibilities from "waiting him out."
He has the opportunity to booby trap the cabin
He has more opportunities to shoot at those maintaining the cordon.
He has more opportunities to escape, particularly at night.
And in the end, if you wait him out and let him dictate what happens, you have the possibility that he will peacefully surrender, although there is zero evidence that he would ever do that and considerable evidence that if he exited that cabin it would be in a hail of gunfire. So the most likely outcome is that he dies. Violently. Or maybe he kills himself, which may well be what actually happened.
So the question is, given those possibilities, how do you minimize the risk that he will harm others? And that's to take the fight to him rather than hang back. I have no problem with that strategy.
As for exactly how it played out, there seem to be a number of posters who think that they know exactly what happened inside and outside that cabin. The only think I know for certain is that none of those posters actually know exactly what happened. I doubt anyone will ever know exactly what happened, although I'm sure there will some here that claim that they know.
Finally, I have no more problem with his being killed by the police than I have with the police killing Charles Whitman on the top of the tower at the University of Texas or with Brian Murphy, honored at last night's state of the union address, shooting to kill the sikh temple shooter in Wisconsin (and yes I know that after being wounded by Kelly the shooter blew his own brains out) or with the police shooting Timothy Dale Johnson, who was identified as the man who shot and killed Arkansas Democratic Party Chairman Bill Gwatney in 2008. The fact that the sikh shooter or Whitman or Johnson didn't get trials (because the either died by their own hand or by the actions of law enforcement) does not bother me at all. Do I regard them as murderers even though they never stood trial for their acts? Damn straight.