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In reply to the discussion: Dorner's con game worked [View all]cer7711
(614 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 14, 2013, 01:16 AM - Edit history (1)
"Many here have bought into his excuses for going on a murdering spree and [have] decided [that] his life means more than those of all the people--civilian and police alike--that he killed."
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Two points here:
1.) If a DU member(s) has behaved in such a fashion wouldn't it be more efficacious, fair and pertinent to take it up with that member(s) directly?
2.) Your faulty reasoning demonstrates a logic error called "the fallacy of the excluded middle": either one is a doltish, ignorant, murderer-coddling sympathizer (possibly equally as psychopathic as Dorner himself) OR one is a smart, psychologically-astute moral exemplum of Homo superior who dismisses the (alleged) egregious wrongs done to Dorner as so much sick fantasy. Your argument is a binary, either/or proposition, devoid of nuance or shading. You have excluded the possibility that many thinking, functioning human beings capable of moral reasoning can decry Dorner's behavior while at the same time remain troubled by his allegations-- allegations that have been, in the main, verified as true and substantive by other witnesses in this case (rampant racism in the LAPD, police brutality, the humiliation and stress inflicted on Dorner by his fellow officers for having brought incidents of unwarranted and excessive police violence to light).
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"You'll fallen for the PR of a psychotic killer." [sic]
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Umm . . . No. See above.
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"Too bad James Holmes or Alex Lanza didn't write manifestos. They might have fan clubs here as well."
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Non sequitur. (That does not follow.)
Inquiring into the motivation and triggering causes of those sick, sad souls who commit horrific acts is not to excuse or justify their actions. Understanding that the Treaty of Versailles inflamed German nationalism by saddling the defeated powers with the entire costs and blame for the war does not mean that one seeks to excuse or otherwise minimize Nazi atrocities in the war that followed. Learning that John Wilkes Booth came out of a certain Southern tradition and vehemently-hostile anti-Union social set and setting doesn't mean one applauds his assassination of President Lincoln in the particular or US presidents in general. And saying that Dorner's case raises troubling red flags concerning systemic and continuing police brutality, open racism and a culture of intimidation and cover-up is NOT the same as excusing or applauding the homicidal, anti-gay, misogynistic and paranoid narcissism of this deeply troubled (now dead) human being.