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jberryhill

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46. Yes, that's correct

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 05:42 PM

Feb 2013

In fact, you have said that it "can't be shown" that the cops were acting within Constitutional limits - which, by the way, are probable cause driven.

Having authority to act on probable cause is one thing - in fact that is the jumping off point for people saying that Dorner did not receive due process. The Constitution permits the use of deadly force on assessment of probable cause, subject to the conditions noted in Garner.

Your conclusive statements about the guilt of the cops you have deemed guilty, is quite another story in relation to due process.

Whether you consider others to be consistent is not an excuse for your own lack of consistency.

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Saddam Lover!! RandiFan1290 Feb 2013 #1

I remember when the whole country cheered when Bin Laden was dead. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #2

Damn right I cheered when Osama bit the dust. iandhr Feb 2013 #58

My best friend had his grandmother murdered in broad daylight. His family opposed the death penalty Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #77

I will go with you. MuseRider Feb 2013 #3

He murdered! Murder him! The hayl with due process, I want him dayd! Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #4

Does the Supreme Court's opinion of the Constitution factor in to your thinking about "due process"? jberryhill Feb 2013 #10

To some, the Constitution is like the Bible... SidDithers Feb 2013 #15

True that jberryhill Feb 2013 #23

That's a great idea... SidDithers Feb 2013 #24

How about a majority of the state legislatures? jberryhill Feb 2013 #32

You're just bursting with good ideas today. I like the way you think... SidDithers Feb 2013 #34

Again, you're trying to cite this court opinion, as if it fits. It doesn't. beevul Feb 2013 #36

No, it's not a blank check jberryhill Feb 2013 #37

Wait... beevul Feb 2013 #39

Yes, that's correct jberryhill Feb 2013 #46

Nonsense. beevul Feb 2013 #48

I have given it a lot of thought jberryhill Feb 2013 #49

it heaven05 Feb 2013 #90

K&R libtodeath Feb 2013 #5

I'm not cheering his death, Light House Feb 2013 #6

I agree. HappyMe Feb 2013 #12

Thank you. sibelian Feb 2013 #7

Should emotion trump the law? jberryhill Feb 2013 #9

"A nation of laws" jberryhill Feb 2013 #8

regardless of the legalese, the sentiment still applies quinnox Feb 2013 #17

I'm not on board with the police jberryhill Feb 2013 #21

you are not "on board" with the way the police handled it, quinnox Feb 2013 #30

That's correct jberryhill Feb 2013 #38

I explained what the reasons for my OP were about quinnox Feb 2013 #42

I think bloodthirsty cheering and revenge seeking are odious human tendencies jberryhill Feb 2013 #43

Have you been persecuted in some way again? great white snark Feb 2013 #11

this was originally meant as a response in another forum quinnox Feb 2013 #13

Yea, that's what is required. JoePhilly Feb 2013 #14

straw man treestar Feb 2013 #16

"Each man's death diminishes me, For I am involved in mankind." John Donne Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #18

that's beautiful! Thank you for posting this. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #25

I'd imagine that for every one thousand "good mainstream Democrats" there are also LanternWaste Feb 2013 #19

Why didn't you post this after they killed Dykes last week? nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #20

Sorry, didn't know who "Dykes" was until I just googled it quinnox Feb 2013 #27

Odd you mention that jberryhill Feb 2013 #29

That was in reference to drone strikes. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #31

Because Dykes had the wrong politics. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #52

Wonder what DU would have been like when Rodney King was beaten half to death jsr Feb 2013 #22

Sure, that's what would have happened. JoePhilly Feb 2013 #26

Not LAPD wercal Feb 2013 #35

Yep, it was the sheriffs. I have posted incorrectly regarding that. I've also posted here on DU Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #85

How many people did Rodney King gun down in cold blood? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #54

THANK YOU iandhr Feb 2013 #64

Me too. The sympathy for that asshole makes me sick. Zoeisright Feb 2013 #67

Bring it on!!! Cal Carpenter Feb 2013 #28

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Gee We All Just LURVE Criminals! HangOnKids Feb 2013 #41

Yes, and if you think it's acceptable for police to use force against geek tragedy Feb 2013 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #55

No one's defending that action. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #56

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Excuse me? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #61

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I never said that people who "didn't find the need to wank" supported his actions. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #79

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Actually, the OP--the one that accused people who disagree with him geek tragedy Feb 2013 #82

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Disagreement is to be discouraged? nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #84

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Of course I would have preferred that he was brought in alive to stand trial. iandhr Feb 2013 #62

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You might be right. But that wasn't my point. iandhr Feb 2013 #68

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Look I am aware of the history of the LAPD. iandhr Feb 2013 #72

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Especially the 6th and 7th -- Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2013 #40

welcome to the big tent.. frylock Feb 2013 #44

Having compassion for murderers and rapists? EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #45

Nuance is hard. n/t backscatter712 Feb 2013 #47

and the OP certainly reflects a lack of nuance. cali Feb 2013 #50

Alternate title post: People who disagree with me are bloodthirsty revenge geek tragedy Feb 2013 #51

Ding Ding iandhr Feb 2013 #74

I'll take it too ReRe Feb 2013 #57

So, Chris Dorner was lynched, huh? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #59

Respectfully.... ReRe Feb 2013 #76

Just going by your use of the word 'lynch' geek tragedy Feb 2013 #78

Completely wrong. Zoeisright Feb 2013 #66

What happened to this place? Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #69

Trolls stonecutter357 Feb 2013 #73

I'm confused. I've been given to understand here that "means you are on the far RIGHT fringe". nt patrice Feb 2013 #71

How dare you actually CARE about this quaint notion of "laws". 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #80

So now one must have sympathy for a gun loving, cold blooded murderer, NCTraveler Feb 2013 #86

Look, nowhere in my OP does it even hint at sympathy for Dorner quinnox Feb 2013 #88

You do get the point. Sorry if it was rude. I see how it came off that way. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #89

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I'm self deleting this because quinnox Feb 2013 #92