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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts) Wed Feb 13, 2013, 07:44 PM Feb 2013

Ummm....you guys? The Republicans just filibustered Hagel. A first for a Defense Secretary nominee. [View all]

What happened to Reid's "agreement" with the GOP? If any agreement exists, the Republicans just shit all over it.

GOP filibuster against Hagel a first for a defense secretary nominee
38 minutes ago
By Michael A. Memoli |

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Senate Republicans refused to allow a vote Wednesday on the nomination of Chuck Hagel to lead the Defense Department, staging the first filibuster against a president’s choice to head the Pentagon since the agency was created.

Majority Leader Harry Reid called the move “a shame” as he announced on the floor of the Senate that he was unable to reach an agreement with the top Republican on the Armed Services Committee to avoid such a delay. Reid filed a motion to end the filibuster, which he said he expected to vote on Friday, at which point Democrats believe they will have enough votes to confirm Hagel’s appointment.

http://www.pantagraph.com/news/national/government-and-politics/gop-filibuster-against-hagel-a-first-for-a-defense-secretary/article_5774066c-7630-11e2-a0ca-0019bb2963f4.html?comment_form=true

So what made Harry think he could trust the GOP?

Well done, Harry.

Well. Fucking. Done.

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Ummm....you guys? The Republicans just filibustered Hagel. A first for a Defense Secretary nominee. [View all] Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 OP

Harry Reid did not have enough votes to change the filibuster. Deal with it. phleshdef Feb 2013 #1

oh but... Why pass up a chance to curse a D... Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #2

Not just tired, but also downright immature. phleshdef Feb 2013 #3

Why Not Just Quote The Count On Sesame Street HangOnKids Feb 2013 #4

People are acting nasty towards Reid over something he couldn't force. phleshdef Feb 2013 #6

In Another Post You Asked For People To Act Mature HangOnKids Feb 2013 #11

I didn't ask for people to do anything. I just called them what they are. phleshdef Feb 2013 #12

Not getting what I wanted? HangOnKids Feb 2013 #16

Yes he did. He only needed 51 Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #5

He didn't have 51. phleshdef Feb 2013 #7

Yeah, he did. He did not WANT fillibuster reform Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #19

And just as I pointed out to another poster below, read your own links before posting them. phleshdef Feb 2013 #27

So which Democratic Senators, other than Reid, were opposed to this Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #41

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #33

That's funny. Reid said himself he had 51 votes: Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #8

Perhaps you should read your own article, since it proves you wrong. phleshdef Feb 2013 #9

So the filibuster has been weakened? Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #13

Not nearly enough. No one is disputing that. Don't attempt to change the subject. phleshdef Feb 2013 #15

Well surely a weakened filibuster won't result in the first Secretary of Defense Nominee Filibuster Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #18

A whole field of strawmen right there. phleshdef Feb 2013 #30

Ya, but it's interesting Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #34

Thanks for that, phlesh. Cha Feb 2013 #21

Perhaps you should follow your own advice. jeff47 Feb 2013 #47

STRANGE that with how well that polls, the votes really weren't there & strange that none of US patrice Feb 2013 #17

Democrats face the very real possibility of being the minority party after the elections of 2014... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #29

Actually, that kind of scenario could work out better for Democrats, even when in the minority... markpkessinger Feb 2013 #37

You expect bravery from this bunch of career politicians? Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #38

Oh, I understand that much. What I don't know is how to parse it all out & I wonder if those patrice Feb 2013 #50

Follow the money... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #54

I love Howard Zinn. I have A People's History on my iPod. patrice Feb 2013 #57

That remained to be seen . . . markpkessinger Feb 2013 #25

Theres a lot of public support for all kinds of things that don't get passed. phleshdef Feb 2013 #28

If only Reid could have done away with the filibuster. Oh wait. tblue Feb 2013 #32

Wait just a second. It was Harry that said he was bamboozled by the handshake deal rhett o rick Feb 2013 #45

There was more than one proposed reform jeff47 Feb 2013 #49

My party should have been planning for that moment for years. And learned how to twist the arms of Overseas Feb 2013 #52

I hope the vets and current military see just what the GOP really thinks about those who serve. kelliekat44 Feb 2013 #10

LOL, he probably will switch to Independent (can't be a Democrat) once he gets all TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #14

I'm not piling on Harry. It is what it is.. Bernie Sanders was on some show Cha Feb 2013 #20

If Reid only had 48 votes, then I suppose there's not much Harry could have done Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #23

It's confusing..there was a lot of opposing information coming out Cha Feb 2013 #24

If Reid only had 48 votes, we better get some primary challengers ready Chathamization Feb 2013 #40

Harry told us he had the numbers. And I think all he needed was 50. So who fucked up the numbers? nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #46

No, there was 51 votes for most of the proposed reforms jeff47 Feb 2013 #48

Holy excrement wryter2000 Feb 2013 #22

we can all sleep better at night datasuspect Feb 2013 #26

This looks like a delay. nothing more. right? There will BE a vote. robinlynne Feb 2013 #31

let's hear it for a Harry!!! jonthebru Feb 2013 #35

The ReTHUGS are absolutely f*****g incorrigible big babies and don't Auntie Bush Feb 2013 #36

republicans control the senate with with a minority. LBJ must be rolling in his grave. nt msongs Feb 2013 #39

Does anybody think that the Republicans are going to filibuster ALL of Obama's kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #42

Shocker. Yet another attack on a Democratic Party Congressional leader... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #43

Maybe the Pres could nominate Rummy DollarBillHines Feb 2013 #44

There's a really quick solution here OmahaBlueDog Feb 2013 #51

I love that idea. Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #53

Shaw AFB in South Carolina strikes me as an excellent starting point OmahaBlueDog Feb 2013 #55

Harry Reid says: ReRe Feb 2013 #56

The cloture vote has failed: Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #58