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truedelphi

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60. But none of us know anything about any of this...

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 08:48 PM

Feb 2013

I just read several "news articles" about the crimes Dorner committed. Funny thing, only one name is even offered up regarding his criminal behavior. Someone steals a car - but the reporter writing up the story doesn't put in the name of the individual whose car was stolen? Several accounts in the news that various individuals saw Dorner doing such and such - but no names to those witnesses????

So far as I can tell, Dorner has been convicted by the press, BECAUSE OF A GULDARN MANIFESTO posted on FB. I am far from being a computer expert, but FB is easy enough to hack, and if the LA Police or any other org wants to take you down, they have the money and can get the expertise to do so.

Not a standard of law I want to see implemented any time soon, but apparently a lot of Americans are A-okay with all this! If the media says it - it must be true!

And ain't it rather odd that both Nine Eleven Hijacker Atta and now Dorner had offical photo ID's that were impermeable to mass conflagrations?? We all saw how the fire at that cabin raged - yet his wallet and his ID survived?? I'd like to coat my house with whatever substance his wallet and his Calif. Driver's License were made of. That coating woul dbe invaluable during a California's summer firestorm...

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Open Letter to all you ultra-liberal wimps whining about Dorner being torched. [View all] 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 OP

that was lame JI7 Feb 2013 #1

Actually, it wasnt lame at all. darkangel218 Feb 2013 #4

No, it wasn't. The sarcasm was quite appropriate. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #85

Hmmm, so caring about "due process" Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #141

Lame. kick so more people can bask in the brown glow. nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #2

Third Way Manny does it better Fumesucker Feb 2013 #3

K&R quinnox Feb 2013 #5

I'm honestly hoping DU can be a forum where we work through stuff 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #7

I voted for Obama too quinnox Feb 2013 #10

"Progressives" and "Anti-Authoritarian" "Leftists" theKed Feb 2013 #11

And we're really sorry about that. ;) Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2013 #103

Interestingly enough, whenever a poster doesn't have an argument, they seem to use the word lame. robinlynne Feb 2013 #114

Thank God you are evolved and can help the "simple" folk... Coyote_Tan Feb 2013 #9

my pleasure quinnox Feb 2013 #17

Do you concede that it's a defensible viewpoint geek tragedy Feb 2013 #22

In general, sure, that is a legitimate use of force by police in the appropriate circumstances quinnox Feb 2013 #43

Just like those who disagree with you don't like being labeled bloodthirsty cowboys. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #51

I don't think the OP is about that. The OP is saying... then they come for you. robinlynne Feb 2013 #117

There was no illegality or injustice here. An armed gunman died in an armed struggle geek tragedy Feb 2013 #127

Still trying to put it out there that Obama wanted him to be killed? Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #6

I never even mentioned Obama ONCE 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #8

You did... Then changed it to try and hide your right wing conspiracy Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #12

I did 2 edits 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #18

That is simply not true Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #30

Don't you love that we can now see edits? zappaman Feb 2013 #33

Joe is lying through his teeth 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #37

I lied? I gave links to what I was talking about... You knew in post 18 what I was talking about... Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #52

Joe is lying through his teeth 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #55

I don't think it will become true by repeating it. Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #58

EXCUSE ME? Yikes! Your pants are on fire Joe!! 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #35

ohhhhh... So this is a new conspiracy? Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #40

Slippery Joe 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #50

I did not answer you? You have yet to ask me anything... Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #56

Wow. just wow. 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #61

I got it from where I linked to... Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #77

I'm not here to defend EVERY other OP in my history on DU 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #89

It is all the exact same topic Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #97

NOT "same topic", NOT same OP. FAIL. ~nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #108

Sure it is, you are still pushing conspiracy and trying to make a murderer a hero Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #113

and you are still putting words in my mouth, otherwise known as 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #118

You never said he was "set up"? Did I imagine that? Mis-read it perhaps? Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #122

Maybe in a past life 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #123

Not even going to address what I quoted you saying in the OP? I'm shocked. Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #124

c*r*i*c*k*e*t*s ~nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #125

I thought not Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #126

Who said Obama wanted Dorner killed? Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #13

See reply 12 - nt Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #15

And this is how false info gets spread. For the record, I thought 99th Monkey's unedited OP Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #39

^ What LA said here is the truth ^ nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #66

If i could give this OP a thousand recs, i would. nt darkangel218 Feb 2013 #14

Bottom line, Dorner brought it all on himself KingFlorez Feb 2013 #16

This isn't just about Dorner. ~nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #19

Its ok, 99. darkangel218 Feb 2013 #29

His actions triggered this KingFlorez Feb 2013 #36

I don't actually even disagree with what you say here 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #42

He did (file lawsuits). robinlynne Feb 2013 #119

Wow. darkangel218 Feb 2013 #21

Was Dorner reading in a library or engaged in a gunfight with geek tragedy Feb 2013 #25

It was a fuking execution!, darkangel218 Feb 2013 #38

You have proof the cause of death was fire? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #47

How do you know the tear gas was what srarted the fire?? darkangel218 Feb 2013 #54

They said "burners" which is SWAT lingo for incendiary tear gas cannisters. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #57

How do you know he wasnt alive?? darkangel218 Feb 2013 #67

How do you know procedures? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #74

I guarantee you that setting fire on a dwelling where a suspect is hiding, darkangel218 Feb 2013 #133

You know more than I then. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #134

I can understand why they didn't want to go in Lokey Feb 2013 #81

They probably knew there was a chance there would be a fire. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #83

The possibility exists that magellan Feb 2013 #111

They waited at least two hours so it's not like they instantly zapped him. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #130

That is what they did magellan Feb 2013 #135

Eh, there should be an investigation. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #136

An investigation would be a waste of time magellan Feb 2013 #138

I have no problem with cops killing people like Dorner in situations like this. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #139

I guess the standards we expect from law enforcement aren't the same magellan Feb 2013 #140

Supposedly we have a body - but no proof that he was killed truedelphi Feb 2013 #73

Well, if he wasn't killed inside the cabin, how did he get inside? Did he go zombie? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #76

Were these cops backwater yokels meanit Feb 2013 #49

I doubt any had dealt with a heavily armed gunman with military training. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #53

SWAT teams deal with heavily armed gunmen all the time meanit Feb 2013 #78

The goal is to make sure he isn't a threat to anyone anymore. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #82

These cops weren't Marines burning up enemy caves on Iwo Jima meanit Feb 2013 #99

They carry guns for a reason. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #102

Nobody said the police didn't have the right to use lethal force. meanit Feb 2013 #116

They used tear gas to smoke him out and the building caught fire. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #129

Micro Parsing? meanit Feb 2013 #149

According to reporter Max Blumenthal, who was there, there was no Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #63

Well, sure, because they didn't make themselves targets for him. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #69

You claimed that there engaged in a gunfight when they sent they employed the tear gas. Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #84

How did the cop die yesterday? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #87

That gun fight was way over. How many days was Waco? Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #90

They weren't a flight risk. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #104

Don't lie, I didn't say that KingFlorez Feb 2013 #31

What law?? darkangel218 Feb 2013 #41

I was referreing to due process KingFlorez Feb 2013 #46

but that is not what the OP is about. robinlynne Feb 2013 #121

I was addressing a particular sub-post that mentioned due process KingFlorez Feb 2013 #131

If only that could apply to the LAPD HipChick Feb 2013 #24

But none of us know anything about any of this... truedelphi Feb 2013 #60

So, who shot the deputy who died that day, kidnapped those maids, committed the carjacking, and shot geek tragedy Feb 2013 #79

We are told that he was a threat - what we aren't being told are the actual truedelphi Feb 2013 #109

What laws were broken by the use of tear gas to subdue geek tragedy Feb 2013 #20

An Immodest Proposal! WinkyDink Feb 2013 #23

They should have used a drone alarimer Feb 2013 #26

I was just amazed rightsideout Feb 2013 #27

Interesting....the police broke into my house while I was away on a business trip HipChick Feb 2013 #34

Wow! They never paid? rightsideout Feb 2013 #45

Sorry for your mistreatment. A reporter, way back in early 1990's, attempted to truedelphi Feb 2013 #48

The government has the right to seize (and destroy) any piece of property so long as they compensate geek tragedy Feb 2013 #64

I wish admin would put back the UNREC button. zappaman Feb 2013 #28

"Burners" is a term for tear gas. bayareamike Feb 2013 #32

The "jokes" and the bloodthirsty Le Taz Hot Feb 2013 #44

Trials are for people who are in custody. One does not conduct a trial for a gunman shooting geek tragedy Feb 2013 #59

Way to completely miss the point. Le Taz Hot Feb 2013 #68

What point? A trial was impossible because Dorner refused to let himself geek tragedy Feb 2013 #71

I don't completely disagree with you 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #94

This has absolutely nothing to do with drones geek tragedy Feb 2013 #100

Actually, there is a connection, or so it was reported on DU 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #107

My spouse and I are making the same observations that you are. truedelphi Feb 2013 #75

K&R MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #62

It's OK 99th_Monkey, We all love you, we just want to help you... Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #65

FOX Nooze? 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #72

Have to admit that my post adds to the sarcasm. Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #101

"on the comments pages"? 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #106

The one there on Fox News site. Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #112

NEVER watch FOX 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #120

did you miss his "sarcasm" tag? quinnox Feb 2013 #91

And that is why I use the laughing smiley there at the end. Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #98

What the fuck is up with this liberal labeling regarding Dorner? great white snark Feb 2013 #70

Perhaps 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #80

Indeed. n/t one_voice Feb 2013 #86

Uhhhhhhmerica say BOOOOM!!11111 datasuspect Feb 2013 #88

Cops are not supposed to burn down houses with suspects inside them! meanit Feb 2013 #92

Esp. when they apparently weren't entirely certain whose charred body they found 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #95

Check out the video the deputy was shot in the face with a 50 cal sniper rifle... Historic NY Feb 2013 #93

Assuming it really WAS Dorner who died 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #96

Their not looking for anyone else...you heard the sheriff... Historic NY Feb 2013 #105

So, you think it might not have been him? zappaman Feb 2013 #110

No. didn't say that. 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #115

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #128

Efficiency is paramount to corporations jsr Feb 2013 #132

You act like it was new. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #137

What you say is true 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #142

How was the policy's conduct illegal? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #143

My post was in reply to #137 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #144

Ruby Ridge and Waco and gubmint all in one post. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #145

Take it up with GreenStormCloud 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #146

Yes, the level of surveillance is new. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #148

Remember the D.C. snipers? Waiting For Everyman Feb 2013 #147