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justiceischeap

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13. I applaud you for your maturity but, when the mormon's came to my door
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 09:05 AM
Jan 2012

a few days after Prop 8 passed, well, I didn't have the maturity you did. I told their church raised money specifically for the purpose of denying me and my kind equality...I sent them on their way, and boy, were they in for a surprise when they got my neighbor. Now, he, was rude. I could hear the yelling through the walls.

But I digress. The problem, for me anyway, isn't the everyday run-of-the-mill christians and I don't begrudge anyone their beliefs--to each her own. What bothers me is people getting bothered if I decide to respond in the negative to proselytizing. I don't have to be rude to respond in the negative, though I gather some would think not smiling and falling to my knees in gratitude when someone sends me a 'God Bless' would be considered negative. But I do have the right to be offended and to respond.

The problem for me, and it's my problem, I know this, is the following: The crazy side of christianity (those whacko right-wing fundies) have ruined the image of christianity in this country; quite possibly in the world. When someone offers me a religious blessing, I automatically equate them with the whacko right-wing fundies--the one's I see stories about SO often here on DU.

They threaten a 16-yr-old girl because she was successful in her lawsuit to take a prayer banner out of school. Any Rick Santorum (or Repub running for office) story. Any religious story that gets news coverage, because 9 times out of 10 it's a sensational story--why else would it be in the news? That in and of itself is a problem. I am now conditioned, like Pavlov's fucking dog, when I hear any religious platitudes to automatically think of creationism in classrooms or pictures of jesus holding a baby dinosaur or the mormon and catholic churches banding together to finance denying equality or any number of negative images that so easily go hand in hand with religion these days. Mostly, I see myself being attacked for being a woman and a lesbian almost on a daily basis by these whacko's. If I don't want to hear a God bless, I think I'm allowed my opinion on that. If I want to snark back (I don't think I would, for the most part I try being polite), I think I'm allowed. If I'm tired of it all, I think I'm allowed. I think it's a reasonable expectation to go to some retail outlet (other than a christian bookstore) and not have to hear anything to do with religion. In my mind, that should be a "safe" place to get away from it all.

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I'm ok, you're ok Owlet Jan 2012 #1
We should learn to "Agree to disagree, agreeably." SharonAnn Jan 2012 #51
I would have gone Matt Damon on them waddirum Jan 2012 #2
I did to a degree Prism Jan 2012 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #3
Does it count Prism Jan 2012 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #7
If it helps Prism Jan 2012 #8
I'm shocked. That's what they mean by: Mira Jan 2012 #33
you deserve a medal unionworks Jan 2012 #6
"We're different, and that's pretty ok!" Union Scribe Jan 2012 #9
Pretty cool... onpatrol98 Jan 2012 #10
They were polite, so I was polite Prism Jan 2012 #11
Good point... onpatrol98 Jan 2012 #12
Maybe it's just me SecularMotion Jan 2012 #14
They believed it in earnest Prism Jan 2012 #17
I have better things to do than engage misguided door-to-door jesus salesmen. SecularMotion Jan 2012 #18
I don't. Prism Jan 2012 #20
If you're so interested in changing minds with engagement why aren't you knocking on their door? SecularMotion Jan 2012 #22
What did you mean? LiberalAndProud Jan 2012 #29
I meant as far as their Biblical literalism Prism Jan 2012 #42
I agree their total lack of respect for others' views is what ThomThom Jan 2012 #36
I applaud you for your maturity but, when the mormon's came to my door justiceischeap Jan 2012 #13
I totally understand what you're saying Prism Jan 2012 #16
You are right. The extremes have colored my view. They think they are Christian but are in fact appleannie1 Jan 2012 #30
That shows real class! :) LiberalLoner Jan 2012 #15
Lovely, and praise for being polite. However, if that happens two or three times a year txwhitedove Jan 2012 #19
I was a little surprised Prism Jan 2012 #24
And never mention your own religious preference cause that just sparks a conversation. I'm polite txwhitedove Jan 2012 #26
Many reigions believe in trying to "witness" to convert others. When they come to my door.... Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #21
I suck Prism Jan 2012 #23
It's tough, but I've had a lot of experience. I can say no to Boy Scouts and Girl Scout cookies.. Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #25
It's sad that you felt the need to lie about your beliefs. surrealAmerican Jan 2012 #27
Good OP pecwae Jan 2012 #28
I need a shower now . NT obliviously Jan 2012 #31
If you have time to waste, that is great. Maybe fun for you. Saying "not Interested" would have.... Logical Jan 2012 #32
Former Catholic and atheist who goes to a small(50-60 members), Baptist church regularly here NNN0LHI Jan 2012 #34
People don't know the definition or understanding of Relativism. vaberella Jan 2012 #35
I always ask them to 'please leave'...they do..No problems.. Tikki Jan 2012 #37
Once or twice, of course you are correct. I've been approached and 'witnessed' to way too many Fuzz Jan 2012 #38
I don't see where you told them you are gay dickthegrouch Jan 2012 #39
Twenty minutes? Really? The only way I would/could give them 20 minutes.... Scuba Jan 2012 #40
Very nice Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #41
The problem is... now they'll be back. mainer Jan 2012 #43
I am usually civil to people at my door tabbycat31 Jan 2012 #49
The point where they always lose me noamnety Jan 2012 #44
AMEN! Duer 157099 Jan 2012 #54
My always say, "I don't talk about my beliefs with people who just show up at my door." And Brickbat Jan 2012 #45
I tried the tactic of claiming I was Catholic Major Nikon Jan 2012 #46
I disagree. Dash Riprock Jan 2012 #47
The town that I live in has an ordinance against this behavior Major Nikon Jan 2012 #48
Let me know if they come back. I had this happen when I was in Law School. A couple of Pirate Smile Jan 2012 #50
We used to get a lot of Jehovah's Witnesses when I was growing up RZM Jan 2012 #52
You are much nicer than I, I would have encouraged my boyfriend to engage in the conversation and I NotThisTime Jan 2012 #53
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