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In reply to the discussion: Yes, Dorner was a murderer who killed innocent people, [View all]AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)39. Everyone? Is that consistent with his memo (aka "manifesto")
"I later went to a Board of Rights (department hearing for decision of continued employment) from 10/08 to 1/09. During this BOR hearing a video was played for the BOR panel where Christopher Gettler stated that he was indeed kicked by Officer Evans (video sent to multiple news agencies). In addition to Christopher Gettler stating he was kicked, his father Richard Gettler, also stated that his son had stated he was kicked by an officer when he was arrested after being released from custody.
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"Journalist, I want you to investigate ...
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"What they failed to mention in the BOR was Teresa Evans own use of force history during her career on the LAPD. She has admitted that she has a lengthy use of force record and has been flagged several times by risk management. She has a very well known nickname, Chupacabra, which she was very proud to flaunt around the division.
She found it very funny and entertaining to draw blood from suspects and arrestees. At one point she even intentionally ripped the flesh off the arm of a woman we had arrested for battery (sprayed her neighbor with a garden water hose). Knowing the woman had thin elastic skin, she performed (an) Indian burn to the womans arm after cuffing her. That woman was in her mid-70s, a mother and grandmother, and was angry at her tenants who failed to pay rent on time. Something I can completely understand and I am sure many have wanted to do toward tenants who do not pay their rent.
Teresa Evans was also demoted from a senior lead officer rank/position for performance issues. During my two months of working patrol with Teresa Evans, I found her as a woman who was very angry that she had been pulled from patrol for a short time because of a domestic violence report made by Long Beach Police Department because of an incident involving her active LAPD officer boyfriend, Dominick Fuentes, and herself. Dominick Fuentes is the same officer investigated for witness tampering. She also was visibly angry on a daily basis that she was going to have to file for bankruptcy because her ex-husband, a former LAPD officer and not Dominick Fuentes, who had left the department, state, and was nowhere to be found had left her with a tax bill and debt that she was unable to pay because of a lack of financial means. Evans, you are a POS and you lied right to the BOR panel when Randy Quan asked you if you kicked Christopher Gettler."
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"Journalist, I want you to investigate ...
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"What they failed to mention in the BOR was Teresa Evans own use of force history during her career on the LAPD. She has admitted that she has a lengthy use of force record and has been flagged several times by risk management. She has a very well known nickname, Chupacabra, which she was very proud to flaunt around the division.
She found it very funny and entertaining to draw blood from suspects and arrestees. At one point she even intentionally ripped the flesh off the arm of a woman we had arrested for battery (sprayed her neighbor with a garden water hose). Knowing the woman had thin elastic skin, she performed (an) Indian burn to the womans arm after cuffing her. That woman was in her mid-70s, a mother and grandmother, and was angry at her tenants who failed to pay rent on time. Something I can completely understand and I am sure many have wanted to do toward tenants who do not pay their rent.
Teresa Evans was also demoted from a senior lead officer rank/position for performance issues. During my two months of working patrol with Teresa Evans, I found her as a woman who was very angry that she had been pulled from patrol for a short time because of a domestic violence report made by Long Beach Police Department because of an incident involving her active LAPD officer boyfriend, Dominick Fuentes, and herself. Dominick Fuentes is the same officer investigated for witness tampering. She also was visibly angry on a daily basis that she was going to have to file for bankruptcy because her ex-husband, a former LAPD officer and not Dominick Fuentes, who had left the department, state, and was nowhere to be found had left her with a tax bill and debt that she was unable to pay because of a lack of financial means. Evans, you are a POS and you lied right to the BOR panel when Randy Quan asked you if you kicked Christopher Gettler."
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Excellent post and it explains exactly how I feel about this mess, here in SoCal.
BlueCaliDem
Feb 2013
#1
The work of the Abolitionists were both well-known and advertised prior to Harper's Ferry.
LanternWaste
Feb 2013
#67
It prompted to other people to come forward. Both are no longer with the department and
Luminous Animal
Feb 2013
#20
Other than the fact that he's why we're talking about the LAPD right now.
Comrade Grumpy
Feb 2013
#58
Now if Dorner had taken time to document all those abuses then he could have done some good.
dkf
Feb 2013
#5
Dorner being a mass murderer is ALL the story is. Bad cops are 100% IRRELEVANT to the story.
graham4anything
Feb 2013
#9
Well, at minimum, just the consideration that the LAPD fired upon three innocents, multiple times,
MadHound
Feb 2013
#12
I am much less likely to pay attention to anyone who holds Dorner up as some kind of hero. So at
DevonRex
Feb 2013
#19
But SoCal PD response to him has turned all eyes upon them. Then they told media to
Fire Walk With Me
Feb 2013
#30
He murdered a police officer's daughter to "break the gang's rule of silence"?
uppityperson
Feb 2013
#40
Unfortunately it's not just here that few are capable of nuance, gray area thinking or multitasking
Fumesucker
Feb 2013
#45
No other police department in the country would have refrained from shooting the wrong vehicles?
Fumesucker
Feb 2013
#46
Very well stated. Similar, in fact, to the LA Times editorial on the same subject.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#70