Yes, Dorner was a murderer who killed innocent people,

[MadHound]

54. Wait, what?!

So you're saying that the cops who opened fire aren't responsible for their actions?

Any cop, including the ones in my family, will tell you that the prime rule in such situations is to insure the safety of civilians. Those cops opened fire without even to make an identification, they failed to exercise basic control over their own emotions and fears. That is not the sign of a good cop, that is the sign of a cop who is going to kill the wrong person. It is only by sheer luck or bad aim that two women and one white man weren't killed.

This isn't a matter of relevancy, it is a matter of well trained police who performing a very hard, responsible and necessary job poorly. You don't open fire without a clear identification, even if you get shot at first.

Murders and manhunts and exchanges of gunfire are going to happen. It is the responsibility of the police force to be trained and disciplined enough not to open fire without clear ID.