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cherokeeprogressive

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87. I understand where you're coming from, I do. It gets to the point though where

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:45 AM

Feb 2013

we're talking about guilt by association and I'm not about to say all Catholics are tainted by the actions of priests. I'm admittedly not up to snuff about what Ratzinger might or might not have been part of.

A childhood friend of mine that I grew up with in Norwalk was on his way to the priesthood. He got to the gates (figuratively) and realized it wasn't for him, but not because of the Church's past, but because of where he thought it was headed in the future. I always thought that was strange, but who am I to argue with a guy I played hopscotch with as a kid that now has a Masters Degree in Theology.

I just don't like the whole guilt by association thing. It's like saying I've got the blood of Newtown, CT children on my hands because I own a few guns.

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Pope Allegedly Sought IMMUNITY For ABUSE CRIMES Just Before Resigning [View all] Segami Feb 2013 OP

Holy crap. Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #1

Finally, this is making sense rocktivity Feb 2013 #2

Should these claims come to fruition, Segami Feb 2013 #4

Who knows? they may even be willing to spill some beans in exchange for leniency. arcane1 Feb 2013 #36

Yup! n/t Agschmid Feb 2013 #62

Thanks for posting this....much appreciated. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #3

K&R n/t OneGrassRoot Feb 2013 #5

This guy is basically the anti-christ. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #6

Haha! The popes are a succession of anti-christs! Jesus would prob puke to know what they do! hue Feb 2013 #132

I thought Vatican City was a sovereign state. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #7

Can the Pope Be Arrested in Connection with the Sexual Abuse Scandal? Segami Feb 2013 #9

He would no longer be considered a head of state, so that Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #13

But then why resign theKed Feb 2013 #29

Can you say, "UNDER PRESSURE"?! (Remember John Paul I?) WinkyDink Feb 2013 #75

But by whom? theKed Feb 2013 #82

There was a lot of speculation Aerows Feb 2013 #94

That's my guess. Since, in the tradition of the papacy, the pope is the closest human being to God loudsue Feb 2013 #102

This all well might play out as high Catholic drama. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2013 #30

My first thought, too. n/t tuvor Feb 2013 #11

This an important detail Bigbluebrush Feb 2013 #34

it is BainsBane Feb 2013 #43

We could just fly a drone up his ass. It's perfectly legal they say. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #78

I don't know the answer to that but your comment may snagglepuss Feb 2013 #114

That's why he's cloistering himself at the Vatican for the rest of his life, I guess. hedda_foil Feb 2013 #125

What a bunch of BS. The ICC complaint is wholly frivolous. tritsofme Feb 2013 #8

Now wait a second Aerows Feb 2013 #79

The title of the OP has immunity in all caps. tritsofme Feb 2013 #86

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Zoeisright Feb 2013 #96

You actually think the pope resigned because he was desperately seeking immunity? tritsofme Feb 2013 #97

You may not agree with the speculation, but to call it CT garbage rhett o rick Feb 2013 #117

Good Politicalboi Feb 2013 #10

I sincerely hope this is the beginning of the end of the entire church. Walk away Feb 2013 #121

May Justice Be Served Whisp Feb 2013 #12

I will dance with you. nt DollarBillHines Feb 2013 #15

Here's a crazy idea: Stop fucking kids! NightWatcher Feb 2013 #14

Religion and Faith should never be mixed together. Segami Feb 2013 #16

Neither should religion and sex.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #53

As a kid religion was no big deal to me, but I never believed a bit of it, nor did I believe RKP5637 Feb 2013 #35

Right on. I'd add to that excellent suggestion for the Church snagglepuss Feb 2013 #113

Alleged by whom? 'Addicting Info' doesn't give any source muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #17

That's not important. Now, it's ONLY about shaming the Church one way or the other. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #33

You're right. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. pnwmom Feb 2013 #59

Well Aerows Feb 2013 #80

I understand where you're coming from, I do. It gets to the point though where cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #87

I'm not blaming Church members Aerows Feb 2013 #93

Alleged by the Internatinal Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State LiberalAndProud Feb 2013 #74

Yeah, I read that Aerows Feb 2013 #95

Yes, I followed the trail defacto7 Feb 2013 #98

need a more credible mainstream source for this story to have legs srican69 Feb 2013 #18

I agree but this event's (Pope's resignation) facts is still in its infancy. Segami Feb 2013 #20

I knew it! ananda Feb 2013 #19

Frankly... ReRe Feb 2013 #73

This is tragic for people in a faith community. MissMarple Feb 2013 #21

Occam's razor: The pope is old. He's quitting because he can't stay awake. jsr Feb 2013 #22

People need their layers of hidden truths or something, I suppose. (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2013 #24

Do you honestly believe the Pope resigned because Segami Feb 2013 #25

As much as I want to see church officials in jail jsr Feb 2013 #26

No, he's been thinking about it for at least DonViejo Feb 2013 #84

Perfect storm I think is accurate. glinda Feb 2013 #118

I just re-read... DonViejo Feb 2013 #119

Wish I could find the Catholic online magazine newsletter where glinda Feb 2013 #122

Popes die in office. "Old" doesn't cut it. And "Too Old For Lent"? VERY odd. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #76

Yes, because just after he became Pope defacto7 Feb 2013 #99

Occam's Razor is not foolproof Taverner Feb 2013 #111

B-b-but he's old and ill! He bumped his head and walks a little slow! backscatter712 Feb 2013 #23

Hmmmmmm! rdharma Feb 2013 #27

For a long time I wonder if the pope is guilty of liking little children alittle to much. southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #28

I wonder, have there been any allegations about that ... and he seems to purposely always be after RKP5637 Feb 2013 #37

I'll be honest Aerows Feb 2013 #83

Something is up. A pope just doesn't resign like that. Maybe someone has something southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #106

Who else would cover for a pedophile... CoffeeCat Feb 2013 #88

And some of them Aerows Feb 2013 #90

It makes you sick to think about people like this have ruined organized church. southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #105

Everybody at Penn State? KamaAina Feb 2013 #112

Even if there is sarisataka Feb 2013 #31

They are remodeling a building in the Vatican and he will live there Autumn Feb 2013 #38

I would think they would do that no matter what ... it would really be weird to have the pope RKP5637 Feb 2013 #39

I'm just wondering, what the hell does a retired Pope do? Autumn Feb 2013 #41

Good question ... he sure can't pal around with the other popes, like call them up for a game of RKP5637 Feb 2013 #46

Since it has been so long since a Pope retired sarisataka Feb 2013 #65

If this were La Repubblica or a similarly prominent Italian geek tragedy Feb 2013 #32

How reliable is this source? hrmjustin Feb 2013 #40

I was tempted to post something about this earlier today. LiberalAndProud Feb 2013 #42

I just googled it and saw some Italian links to it. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #45

Help me out. LiberalAndProud Feb 2013 #50

I just doubled checked and it appears I was mistaken. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #55

No worries. LiberalAndProud Feb 2013 #69

It seems like wishful thinking. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #70

Finally the other shoe drops.. Bennyboy Feb 2013 #44

Nothing is going to happen. He does not need... Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #54

Oh I know nothing will happen Bennyboy Feb 2013 #60

But that is why they are making a residence in the Vatican Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #64

PR nightmare for the Vatican. Segami Feb 2013 #67

I do believe so. Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #68

The answer is no. defacto7 Feb 2013 #100

Vatican city is a country Drahthaardogs Feb 2013 #47

+1 Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #51

Message auto-removed I am Ian Feb 2013 #48

Coming from this group, I don't believe it. This is the news of the millennium if true. Hosnon Feb 2013 #49

I would love to see this man trade papal vestments DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #52

Don't get your hopes up. This story leaves out some facts. Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #61

It's not illegal when the Pope does it? n/t eggplant Feb 2013 #56

I would be very happy if this proves true. That said, I do not believe it at all. Stinky The Clown Feb 2013 #57

I knew something was up! southern_belle Feb 2013 #58

And people wonder how this could happen.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #63

Yeah, uh...this doesn't really make sense to me nickinSTL Feb 2013 #66

Roger Mahoney got away with so much Iwillnevergiveup Feb 2013 #71

Just because Mahoney is gone doesn't mean we've heard the last of him. Initech Feb 2013 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author ohheckyeah Feb 2013 #72

All the people here who suspected this, raise your hands! Fawke Em Feb 2013 #77

The term "Allegedly" should be highlighted in the title to the same degree Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #81

Would all of the OJ Simpson and Michael Jackson deniers please stand up. lindysalsagal Feb 2013 #85

Yes, children were raped. LiberalAndProud Feb 2013 #89

That I wouldn't know about. lindysalsagal Feb 2013 #91

I haven't seen anyone denying the child abuse and sexual crimes Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #92

Louis CK learns about the Catholic Church Go Vols Feb 2013 #101

While I dislike the RCC hierarchy as much as anyone, this story sounds like a bunch of crap. progressoid Feb 2013 #103

Holy Mackerel! burrowowl Feb 2013 #104

Guess he's not infallible after all. Skidmore Feb 2013 #107

The "infallibility" of the pope, as a doctrine, is often misunderstood. whathehell Feb 2013 #116

And by whose authority is he not misleading or speaking in error? Skidmore Feb 2013 #128

According to church doctrine, he is guided by whathehell Feb 2013 #133

kick'd and rec'd lunatica Feb 2013 #108

Why am I not surprised malaise Feb 2013 #109

I'm confused. The Vatican is a sovereign state KurtNYC Feb 2013 #110

He's ok within their precincts dipsydoodle Feb 2013 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author dipsydoodle Feb 2013 #130

The only news articles I can find corroborating this all link back to this article Matariki Feb 2013 #120

Jesus wept. AzDar Feb 2013 #123

Wait...hate to pop reality nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #124

I agree something does not seem right here. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #126

Bring him to trial. obxhead Feb 2013 #127

Not a whole lot different , assuming it to be true , from : dipsydoodle Feb 2013 #131