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Art_from_Ark

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51. No doubt there are some Americans who've decided they want to become Japanese citizens
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:34 AM
Feb 2013

I think there's even someone in this forum who may be traveling that path. But as you noted, they already have strong ties to Japan through marriage, etc., so it's not really like they would be giving up their US citizenship to keep from having to pay US taxes. The foreign-earned income exemption this year is around $94,000, and given that the Japanese tax rates are generally higher than US rates at that point, there would be no benefit in renouncing their US citizenship just for tax purposes. They would have to be making boatloads of money to actually be liable for US as well as Japanese taxes, and I have a feeling that most translators aren't reaching that income level. Of course, it would be different if somehow they are making big bucks off US-based investments. But then again, they would still have to file a tax return to declare their profits, regardless of their citizenship.

However, there is also a matter of reporting foreign bank accounts. US citizens living abroad have to report all bank accounts they hold in foreign countries, if the cumulative amount in all accounts together reaches $10,000 at any time during the tax year. Of course, if one lives in Japan, one must have at least one Japanese bank account. For the past tax year, the $10,000 threshold would be equivalent to roughly 800,000 yen, which in Japan is not a whole lot of money. The information that must be provided about said bank accounts has been getting more and more, how shall I say, kibishii. I don't think any other advanced country demands this of its citizens living in other countries.

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My response to rich people complaining about taxes: YoungDemCA Feb 2013 #1
Seize their assets! Taverner Feb 2013 #2
+1,000 Scuba Feb 2013 #10
The UK does not do that. Nobody even has to renounce their citizenship to avoid UK taxes. Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #11
I thought you still had to pay a nominal tax? Taverner Feb 2013 #16
+++1,000,000 what they are doing is a national security threat. kelliekat44 Feb 2013 #18
weren't taxes lower in 2010 and 2011? 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #3
+ 1000! These tax-evaders are UN-American and UN-patriotic. BlueCaliDem Feb 2013 #30
I think it's mainly them as a group rebreathing their own hot air and backwind... JHB Feb 2013 #33
Good riddance. n/t FSogol Feb 2013 #4
Don't letthe screen door hit ya where the good lord split ya. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #5
So . . . like . . .. where are they going to go? HughBeaumont Feb 2013 #6
My guess would be Bermuda, Hong Kong, Singapore, or the Caymans (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #12
I hear that Somalia is nice this time of year. And the taxes are extremely low. pampango Feb 2013 #36
Fine. Hope they take the Tea-Nazis with them. I highly recommend the Carnival Triumph. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #7
great idea! marions ghost Feb 2013 #9
They are not going to be paying that much more than before. What a bunch of jerks. LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #8
Strip them of the citizenship leftynyc Feb 2013 #13
Not a bad deal considering.. galileoreloaded Feb 2013 #14
I would not be happy leftynyc Feb 2013 #20
Meh, there really aren't any rules anymore. galileoreloaded Feb 2013 #25
Why do you believe they could never visit the USA? Bandit Feb 2013 #32
Could you leave all your family leftynyc Feb 2013 #40
In order to not be taxed, an American has to give up their citizenship. Those who do this are Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #31
Well, yes and no Art_from_Ark Feb 2013 #48
Greedy, selfish people Marrah_G Feb 2013 #15
They'll love Russia. Smug, greedy bastards. aquart Feb 2013 #17
Please go already. raouldukelives Feb 2013 #19
There is nothing stopping a foreign national from continuing to do business here as before stevenleser Feb 2013 #29
Good Riddance Progressive dog Feb 2013 #21
and stay the fuck out frylock Feb 2013 #22
Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya. Autumn Feb 2013 #23
And yet someone at Fox will inevitably call these people "patriots." Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #24
Ah, the mark of a true patriot...surrendering your citizenship. n/t Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #26
Here. Dpm12 Feb 2013 #27
good. the sooned they leave the better....... bowens43 Feb 2013 #28
I hear Somalia is BEAUTIFUL this time of year! bullwinkle428 Feb 2013 #34
So is Beijing! kentauros Feb 2013 #38
Lol. Greedy idiots. Control-Z Feb 2013 #35
They're not going to leave...they need the US military to "spread democracy." KansDem Feb 2013 #37
I don't blame them. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #39
very true riverbendviewgal Feb 2013 #42
There money has already left them. riverbendviewgal Feb 2013 #41
Fine. Don't let them come back to visit either. Bake Feb 2013 #43
The less greedy the better around here imo lunasun Feb 2013 #44
A Couple I know Is moving to Costa Rica AnnieBW Feb 2013 #45
An expatriate is not necessarily someone who has renounced their citizenship Art_from_Ark Feb 2013 #46
As you are an expatriate, Art Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #49
No doubt there are some Americans who've decided they want to become Japanese citizens Art_from_Ark Feb 2013 #51
Fuck'em. Glassunion Feb 2013 #47
So long, farewell, Auf Wiedersehen, GOODBYE!! DearHeart Feb 2013 #50
May they be arrested for tax evasion first burrowowl Feb 2013 #52
They should go if they want to quaker bill Feb 2013 #53
don't let the doorknob hit ya. hobbit709 Feb 2013 #54
Buh Bye! Dirty Socialist Feb 2013 #55
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