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In reply to the discussion: Elizabeth Warren: Damaging the Democratic Brand [WITH CORRECTION] [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)51. Evidently,
"See! Wall Street is so SCARED by Obama that they've stopped committing crimes! These are actual statistics! You'd think a so-called "Harvard Professor" like Warren could understand REAL numbers, and figure out some other way to get some attention, like proposing a free trade bill with North Korea."
...they were "SCARED" by Bush too. Did you notice that the decline in prosecutions coincides with the repeal of Glass-Steagall? I mean, the prosecutions dropped by more than 50 percent between 2000 and 2008.

Elizabeth Warren: Thats the strongest argument for a modern Glass-Steagall
Posted by Ezra Klein
Ezra Klein: So JP Morgan lost $2 billion. Theyre not asking for a bailout. Theyre not threatening to capsize either themselves or anyone else in the system. And so they say, and its not an entirely unfair question, why is this Elizabeth Warrens business, or the U.S. Congresss business? Isnt making bad investment decisions legal?
Elizabeth Warren: That is what Jamie Dimon has said. He says its stupid and sloppy but well fix it. So stay away. But what if the next loss is $20 billion or $200 billion? Is he saying JP Morgan should be entitled to continue to take these bets right up until the day it lands in the taxpayers lap again?
Banks are different than other kinds of companies. We learned that in 2008. They run the risk of bringing down our jobs, our pensions, our economy. The basic deal we made with them is they get to operate banks the things that take savings and investments and checking accounts and get a federal guarantee in return for submitting to substantial oversight to make sure their activities are safe.
<...>
EK: Do you support a modernized Glass-Steagall law?
EW: Yeah! Ive talked with Sen. Maria Cantwell from Washington State. Shes been working on that, and I think the debate should be on the table.
EK: What about breaking up the big banks?
EW: Youre approaching risk from two different directions. One is the risk of the activity. Thats the Volcker rule. The other direction is to say risk is an assumption of size. Community banks shouldnt have to deal with complex regulatory oversight, but the largest institutions should be subject to far more aggressive oversight and have to pay more for the protections they receive from the American taxpayer. Then shareholders may decide to invest in institutions that are not so large.
<...>
EK: Can Dodd-Frank work if its effectively implemented?
EW: I think Dodd-Frank is a strong bill that moves in the right direction. But the market keeps changing. The practices keep changing. The idea that well pass one law and then declare that problem is solved, well be back again in 50 years, just doesnt work anymore. We had a double problem here: Both deregulation and the failure to adapt to new financial conditions and products and practices. Thats what permitted risk to multiply in the system until it nearly brought the economy to its knees.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/elizabeth-warren-thats-the-strongest-argument-for-a-modern-glass-steagall/2012/05/14/gIQAfxTLPU_blog.html
Posted by Ezra Klein
Ezra Klein: So JP Morgan lost $2 billion. Theyre not asking for a bailout. Theyre not threatening to capsize either themselves or anyone else in the system. And so they say, and its not an entirely unfair question, why is this Elizabeth Warrens business, or the U.S. Congresss business? Isnt making bad investment decisions legal?
Elizabeth Warren: That is what Jamie Dimon has said. He says its stupid and sloppy but well fix it. So stay away. But what if the next loss is $20 billion or $200 billion? Is he saying JP Morgan should be entitled to continue to take these bets right up until the day it lands in the taxpayers lap again?
Banks are different than other kinds of companies. We learned that in 2008. They run the risk of bringing down our jobs, our pensions, our economy. The basic deal we made with them is they get to operate banks the things that take savings and investments and checking accounts and get a federal guarantee in return for submitting to substantial oversight to make sure their activities are safe.
<...>
EK: Do you support a modernized Glass-Steagall law?
EW: Yeah! Ive talked with Sen. Maria Cantwell from Washington State. Shes been working on that, and I think the debate should be on the table.
EK: What about breaking up the big banks?
EW: Youre approaching risk from two different directions. One is the risk of the activity. Thats the Volcker rule. The other direction is to say risk is an assumption of size. Community banks shouldnt have to deal with complex regulatory oversight, but the largest institutions should be subject to far more aggressive oversight and have to pay more for the protections they receive from the American taxpayer. Then shareholders may decide to invest in institutions that are not so large.
<...>
EK: Can Dodd-Frank work if its effectively implemented?
EW: I think Dodd-Frank is a strong bill that moves in the right direction. But the market keeps changing. The practices keep changing. The idea that well pass one law and then declare that problem is solved, well be back again in 50 years, just doesnt work anymore. We had a double problem here: Both deregulation and the failure to adapt to new financial conditions and products and practices. Thats what permitted risk to multiply in the system until it nearly brought the economy to its knees.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/elizabeth-warren-thats-the-strongest-argument-for-a-modern-glass-steagall/2012/05/14/gIQAfxTLPU_blog.html
Like I said in another post, if Elizabeth Warren succeeds in getting regulators to do their jobs, it will ensure that Dodd-Frank has significant impact. That was one of the complaints: Regardless of the law, nothing will happen if regulators don't do their jobs.
The next few years are going to be fun. It will be even more fun if Democrats maintain control of the Senate and regain control of the House.
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Elizabeth Warren: Damaging the Democratic Brand [WITH CORRECTION] [View all]
MannyGoldstein
Feb 2013
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I love Grayson, but I still like Eliot Spitzer, and I wish he was in charge of something
loudsue
Feb 2013
#46
For four years the bank/banksters chose not to return to the taxpayers that bailed them
DhhD
Feb 2013
#72
He also chose Holder who doesn't seem all the interested in prosecuting bankers
liberal_at_heart
Feb 2013
#23
You slander the man sir, he believes very strongly in prosecuting whistle-blower and
Dragonfli
Feb 2013
#34
The guest on Last Word tonight is skeptic about some of the biggies going to
Left Coast2020
Feb 2013
#35
Keep it up Manny and they wont let you in the "Leaning Left" forum. Serve you right.
rhett o rick
Feb 2013
#36
Part of the issue is finding a law/regulation that is broken. You can't prosecute if you can't
Laura PourMeADrink
Feb 2013
#45
Where's the sarcasm icon? This is a joke. Right? Warren needs to come down hard on the banks.
The Wielding Truth
Feb 2013
#59
What it shows is that Bush started the decriminalization of financial fraud
whatchamacallit
Feb 2013
#79
Manny, your meme will be the talking point of the Meet the Press A-Holes tomorrow
joeunderdog
Feb 2013
#65
Oh, I got it! To eliminate crime, we just need to lay off all the prosecutors.
tclambert
Feb 2013
#105