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Diclotican

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55. Purveyor
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 11:13 PM
Feb 2013

Purveyor

Not exactly news - as it was known a decade ago, for everyone who was able to put two and two together, that the Administration of mr Bush, was lying, lying, and then some more lying for making the case for the Iraq war.
They was not even shy of making the case for war, with evidences, who was so clearly a hoax, and so full of outright lies, that even a 10 year kid should have understood it... (And most 10 years do understood it I guess)...

The US media have also been cultiple of with wash whatever the Bush administration did, the 8 year they was in office.. Regardless the war crimes - the US media was very god of making excuses, and to tell lies about it - to the evidences was coming to light, as it did when the pictures of soldiers, who proudly was showing of their victims at Abeu Girab - a prison complex, who under Saddam Hussein already had made a notorious reputation - but who under the US control, got a even worst reputation - as the US soldiers, tortured -and even murdered prisoners - and showing it off - by taking pictures of it... But the "smart" ones, higher ups, in the CIA, and in the Army, was never shown in the pictures - and will never getting any punishment for their crimes - who was plenty in the time they was in Iraq...

The US, under the administration of mr Bush - did horrible war crimes in Saddam - and the US media was giving him a free pass - also the others - who was part of the administration in one way or another - was also given a free pass, by the media - even when they more or less admitted to the crimes - and proudly was bragging about how great they had been...

It is definitely TIME for someone to step forward in the US media - to inform a a population who for the most part, have no clue what was being made in their name - the evidences for the crimes, the horrible crimes is overwhelming - and for the most part documented in books, in articles - and in many reports - who was never given to the US population, but who have circulated around the world - and possible made US a few enemies along the way too...

The WMD was a lie - flat out lie from start to end. Just people who had been brainwashed would believe that Iraq pr 2003 had any WMD whats so ever - even though the UN inspectors in Iraq, by the end of 1998 more or less had managed to mop out everything Iraq had of programs - or equipment to make any WMD... As we might know - the US and the UN inspectors in Iraq, was by 1998 asked to leave - because CIA had used the weasel of the UN inspectors - to spy on Iraq government officials - and even tried to requite soldiers - and officers to overthrow Saddam Hussain... The plot was discovered, and many iraqis lost their life in the proses - and the UN inspectors was more or less thrown out of the country...
In 2002-03, the UN inspectors was back inn the country - to look at old and new sites, to, if possible excess the possibility that Iraq had started up the programs, and had WMD weapons - the Inspectors was over all the old sites - and many new ones - who USA intelligence claimed was build to produce WMD.. The UN inspectors, led by Hans Blix, was given a report to the UN Security council, where the evidences was given - but where Hans Blix wanted more time - and more experts on the ground, to document if Iraq had any WMD programs reinstated - The Inspectors was told to F**** them self by no less than the US vice President Dick R. Cheney - and in the end the Inspectors had to leave - because the US was hellbent of going to war...

No Weapons of mass destruction was ever found - not by the UN inspectors in 2002-03 and no one by the Pentagon experts, who was given all the resources the UN inspectors was lacking because of the lack of will from the US government to provide any expert to the UN led organisation... After less than 6 mounts of "recharsh" the Pentagon officers who was there to discover any WMD programs - was either relocated to other task who had nothing with the problems around WMD - or sent back to US, where their reports since have been used as dust catches - as the documents told a whole different story about the possibility about Iraq WMD - than the Bush administration told the public...

I do not believe it is will, or courage in the US to prosecute any officials from the Bush era for what they was doing in Iraq, or in Afghanistan for that matter.. I fear, that the bulk of them, will live out their life - secure, and with no bad days, thinking about the horrible crimes they is guilty of... They know they are secure - as long as their keep their mouth shut - and not in other nations territory. As long as they hide in the US - the crimes they did, on official level - will never be punished - and some of them will even be lauded as great american - by many who really believed the US had to bomb Iraq - and to do the crimes because the possibility of Iraq using nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against the US was overwhelming by 2003.. Most americans it looks like lost their mind after 11 sept 2001.. A collective madness happened - and all reasonable thinking just blow away - and for many americans, their mind is still out in the woods somewhere - some are coming to their senses - and is trying to discover what so many others did understood already as the Bush administration was planing their war against Iraq..

And the fact, is if americans really had been educated to understand what happened in their name, in Iraq, and in many other places - I doubt somehow Bush would have been president for 8 years - but as long as they was been scared out of their minds the whole time - by the media, who ran 24/7/365 propaganda to scare the mind of of them - as long as they continued to do that - most americans was blind to the reality..

Diclotican

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Well-l-l. . . He IS guilty of War Crimes . .so why not? annabanana Feb 2013 #1
Not just gW Vincardog Feb 2013 #2
Totally! Card-carrying and with bells on. calimary Feb 2013 #19
It is now safe to round up Bush and Cheney to prosecute them Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2013 #3
Could be why timdog44 Feb 2013 #7
Did they really do that? n/t ReRe Feb 2013 #32
Google search of Bush purchase. timdog44 Feb 2013 #35
Oh, yeah... ReRe Feb 2013 #41
That's ugly upi402 Feb 2013 #82
You do remember... ReRe Feb 2013 #125
Yep, I do remember all the above. classof56 Feb 2013 #132
Ditto all you said... ReRe Feb 2013 #149
DU is what helped me keep my sanity intact. Frustratedlady Feb 2013 #157
Well, hello, fellow Class of 56er! classof56 Feb 2013 #160
Cheers back atcha! Frustratedlady Feb 2013 #162
The Obama administration has not signed on to the ICC either. former9thward Feb 2013 #137
Looks pretty fishy to me. ReRe Feb 2013 #148
Yes. Paraguay, even. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #115
Junior is lying low right now Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2013 #49
yes painting his toes ThomThom Feb 2013 #93
Painting himself while cleansing is psychologically interesting to me. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #116
The problem with your theory Jenoch Feb 2013 #75
Paraguay changed their extradition laws... IthinkThereforeIAM Feb 2013 #120
It's all about the water ThomThom Feb 2013 #139
That is my thought also nt newfie11 Feb 2013 #159
Huh. I figured it was so Dubya could be closer to his cocaine supply. Orrex Feb 2013 #94
Not extradition, we have it with them since 2001. Most likely water rights. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #122
Most of us on this board have spent years documenting the lies and crimes of the BFEE. deminks Feb 2013 #4
+1 sweetNsassy Feb 2013 #8
Welcome to DU, sweetNsassy! calimary Feb 2013 #13
Thank you, calimary! sweetNsassy Feb 2013 #20
Have you ever noticed... ReRe Feb 2013 #34
Yeah, no kidding. calimary Feb 2013 #54
+ infinity! n/t Lugnut Feb 2013 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Feb 2013 #98
You are so right Samantha Feb 2013 #66
I think you're right bluestateguy Feb 2013 #80
What's new is that this is getting onto TV... Amerigus Feb 2013 #108
That's what I think too 2naSalit Feb 2013 #156
And we were there in the streets in protest from the get go. countmyvote4real Feb 2013 #89
It's news to most people jollyreaper2112 Feb 2013 #99
Cheney's reaction to this show will be this... Archae Feb 2013 #5
You forgot the... busterbrown Feb 2013 #6
They'll also quote Bill Clinton and Al Gore... Drunken Irishman Feb 2013 #16
and sanctions that really hurt the Iraqi population. Whisp Feb 2013 #23
Let me get this straight...Clinton didn't go to war with Iraq demwing Feb 2013 #69
what? Whisp Feb 2013 #73
Maybe we should just call it murder cartach Feb 2013 #105
People forget that Hans Blitz(SP?) was on the ground in Kahuna Feb 2013 #126
Everytime his girlfriend was mentioned he would bomb them. oldbanjo Feb 2013 #25
He was waggin' the dog. Drunken Irishman Feb 2013 #29
If you think its bullshit, there are links. And it wasnt just the Europeans. stevenleser Feb 2013 #21
We are all guilty RobertEarl Feb 2013 #50
Its all a matter of degrees. stevenleser Feb 2013 #53
Excuses, everybody has one RobertEarl Feb 2013 #57
Your post makes no sense. There was no stopping the Iraq war once W was elected with a GOP House stevenleser Feb 2013 #60
No, RobertEarl Feb 2013 #62
You are just wrong and dont want to admit it. You have no argument. Again... stevenleser Feb 2013 #65
Impeachment RobertEarl Feb 2013 #67
+1 the desire to whitewash is very strong in some people. idwiyo Feb 2013 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author KoKo Feb 2013 #100
I resent what you're saying brush Feb 2013 #92
Saying that most of the politicians THOUGHT Saddam had WMDs reduces them to the level of door idwiyo Feb 2013 #70
Completely and utterly wrong. stevenleser Feb 2013 #72
I am not "peddling" anything but truth. You, on the other hand are peddling bullshit. idwiyo Feb 2013 #86
No proof either way means we should not have invaded... Amerigus Feb 2013 #130
"There was no proof either way..." Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2013 #141
+1...! KoKo Feb 2013 #102
I don't for a minute believe that most politicians in the world thought there were WMD arikara Feb 2013 #119
Or, he will quote from the NY Times but fail to mention he was the source. vanbean Feb 2013 #48
The Bush administration could have simply and honestly JDPriestly Feb 2013 #79
I remember that! Amerigus Feb 2013 #10
Welcome to DU, Amerigus! calimary Feb 2013 #17
Here's a quickie Timmy sample johnnyreb Feb 2013 #33
Never saw that one... Amerigus Feb 2013 #111
Good clip, thanks! n/t johnnyreb Feb 2013 #136
OMFG! "Mmmmm hmmmm." That's all you fucking have to say, Rummy, when you are dead to rights proven a Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2013 #142
"Morally superior"... Amerigus Feb 2013 #145
Yeah.. ReRe Feb 2013 #37
Totally agree! tavernier Feb 2013 #96
"Wanna go quail hunting sometime ?" nt eppur_se_muova Feb 2013 #26
No, his quote will be: Harry Monroe Feb 2013 #43
hope so, it's about time someone has. benghazi? how many iraq deaths???? spanone Feb 2013 #9
Dawn breaks over Marblehead! sheshe2 Feb 2013 #11
That fear chervilant Feb 2013 #106
Nothing will come of it DavidDvorkin Feb 2013 #12
At the very least it need not be forgot and since it was 10 years ago, some of our younger friends Purveyor Feb 2013 #15
True, and I'm all for reminding people DavidDvorkin Feb 2013 #18
Maybe not, but it is long over due as another posted pointed out. aptal Feb 2013 #28
237 misleading statements about Iraq Brother Buzz Feb 2013 #14
Thanks for the reminder with the link! n/t KoKo Feb 2013 #103
Can I play devils advocate? Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #22
Seriously would not surprise me. MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #40
Nah. It's an anniversary thing. It's 2013. Hissyspit Feb 2013 #46
I think there are some of the same cast of characters that are trying the same techniques Samantha Feb 2013 #68
no, in fact... Amerigus Feb 2013 #112
That is great to hear, I am going to read that, thank you. Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #114
"justified a war that resulted in over 4,800 US troop deaths" sibelian Feb 2013 #24
I wonder maindawg Feb 2013 #27
this just makes me think of the contrasts Whisp Feb 2013 #30
Only someone outside of the government.... ReRe Feb 2013 #31
Even with all these lies Politicalboi Feb 2013 #36
A multitude of reasons why 9/11 was an inside job, but all swept under the rug. n/t truth2power Feb 2013 #101
Have you noticed OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #121
This is gonna leave a scar! rdharma Feb 2013 #38
The criminals responsible will never be held responsible. So really, what's the point? MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #39
You may be right RobertEarl Feb 2013 #47
You are more optimistic than I am... MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #58
Damn, you are a pessimist. RobertEarl Feb 2013 #61
I've been alive too long not to be. I'd prefer if you were right, though. MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #63
Let's make sure the world sees this report RobertEarl Feb 2013 #64
Truth, Justice, and the American Way Martin Eden Feb 2013 #134
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #42
The sentence TomClash Feb 2013 #44
Sometimes it is good to be upset by the facts libdude Feb 2013 #45
About time someone bucked the trend of sweeping Cheney under the rug derby378 Feb 2013 #51
Holy Kick & R defacto7 Feb 2013 #52
Purveyor Diclotican Feb 2013 #55
Because there weren't any? ellie Feb 2013 #56
Remember, it's not just Rachel Maddow. LancetChick Feb 2013 #59
What We Knew, What We Were Told Timbuk3 Feb 2013 #71
I'm assuming someone from the U.K. will see this Left Coast2020 Feb 2013 #74
Rachael, please JEB Feb 2013 #76
This will hit not only the war criminals Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld, but also a few prominent Democrats FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #77
This - and Elizabeth Warren upi402 Feb 2013 #81
I just hope we can afford the price, mate (NT) FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #88
Rachael Maddow Has A Reputation For Being Very Careful With The Facts DallasNE Feb 2013 #83
The evidence of these crimes has been made public for years and years just1voice Feb 2013 #84
Excellent. About time. n/t Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #85
According to this John2 Feb 2013 #90
But the Democratic leadership will do nothing!! 4dsc Feb 2013 #91
The real question is does Maddow have proof or just opinion? cstanleytech Feb 2013 #95
HOW'S THIS BIG FAT WITTING LIE: WinkyDink Feb 2013 #117
Hans Blix??? Who's that? What would HE know about WMDs, damn ferriner, he can't even idwiyo Feb 2013 #138
But isnt that all old news though WinkyDink? cstanleytech Feb 2013 #151
I hope this is sarcasm. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #152
No, its a serious question. cstanleytech Feb 2013 #153
Significant because it hasn't been on the TV yet... Amerigus Feb 2013 #154
We have lies and cover ups on a lot of important things. I'll admit, this one is the biggest Dustlawyer Feb 2013 #97
Connecting The Dots...... global1 Feb 2013 #104
I wonder, cant Obama lift the Executive Privilege claim on the minutes of that meeting now? cstanleytech Feb 2013 #109
Yet, the Media Continues To Push RW Conspiracy Theories About Bengazi... TomCADem Feb 2013 #107
dvr set. can't wait. TeamPooka Feb 2013 #110
Don't travel by small plane, Rachel. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #113
Good for her and MSNBC... OneMoreDemocrat Feb 2013 #118
Why Obama and Congress did nothing... Amerigus Feb 2013 #123
Be it jail, South Africa or Paraguay, it would be nice to rid ourselves of the filth. lexw Feb 2013 #124
"mistakes" justified a war ..... dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #127
I think mild mannered Rachel is beginning to sharpen Cleita Feb 2013 #128
One thing the Republicans have always been good at... DissidentVoice Feb 2013 #129
kick lovuian Feb 2013 #131
k & r snagglepuss Feb 2013 #133
This is the BEST piece I've seen on HUBRIS, and a GREAT one to show the disbelievers -- short gateley Feb 2013 #135
My only question is why GE is now allowing this RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #140
GE is out of the entertainment business... Amerigus Feb 2013 #143
Thanks. Was unaware. nt RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #147
GE hasn't had controlling interest since 2011 when Comcast bought 51% of NBC DearHeart Feb 2013 #144
I actually had no idea, thank you RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #146
I with you on this one...can't figure it out. DearHeart Feb 2013 #150
The article speculates... Amerigus Feb 2013 #155
The media was complicit in selling the Iraq War. laureloak Feb 2013 #158
kick Electric Monk Feb 2013 #161
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