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In reply to the discussion: Regarding the meteor crash in Russia... [View all]Trajan
(19,089 posts)Please explain ... I would be interested in what you have to say about my being disturbed .... Perhaps you can illuminate a part of me I do not see myself .... Try to do your best, OK ?
Oh, and the entrails thingy ..... Yeah; That is an old superstitious tradition that has fallen by the wayside of history (although there are some shamans and witch doctors in certain regions who still pursue the practice, which is known as Haruspex). It involves divining the future and the fate of individuals or campaigns, based on how the entrails of a dead animal might be arrayed when interpreted by the divining priest (kind of like reading the tea leaves - cept it's animal guts) .... It's something that ignorant people used to do long ago before science was able to show that the results of this pursuit did not reflect any part of reality whatsoever. Some people still do it, because they refuse to acknowledge any scientific refutation of the practice ... but hey, they are free to continue doing it ... right ? ... It's their opinion that Haruspex is a good practice with real practical applications - Do you agree ? .... I mean it has no scientific basis whatsoever, so it's right in your wheelhouse, so to speak .... Give it a try ....
Here is more answer than you deserve - Sid Dithers was being chastised by another poster for expressing strong skepticism to the notion of extraterrestrial visitation, as presented by UFOlogists, and by those who insist that such visitation have occurred, even though they provide no evidence that any such events TRULY and without question have, in fact, occurred .... What that poster DID provide, however, was a list of things that, at first, was denied by reasonable people as being 'impossible' .. things like flying in the sky, beating the 4 minute mile ... Stuff that that, which eventually became reality ... what THAT poster failed to indicate was this: The refutation was all based on irrelevant facts that had no bearing on the question of extraterrestrial visitation of earth. They were mostly non sequitur fallacies, in that the statements had no bearing on the actual question at hand - They provided no proof that extraterrestrial visitation has occurred.
Now, let it be said here and now .... There is always a possibility that an extraterrestrial visitation MIGHT occur in reality, in the future, and, trust me, all of us 'skeptics' would be right there, changing our minds, once such actual evidence is presented and shown to be valid ..... But until then; There has been no valid evidence provided that proves, beyond a shadow of doubt, that extraterrestrials HAVE visited earth .... None whatsoever ...
Now; I ask you the question - Has extraterrestrials visited planet earth ? ... Can you show any real evidence that proves, beyond a shadow of doubt, that extraterrestrials HAVE visited earth ? .... I would be so pleased to see that evidence ...
But make sure it's valid and proven, in such a manner that the greater part of the scientific community can arrive at a consensus that such evidence DOES in fact prove, beyond a shadow of doubt, that such visitations have occurred, and then and ONLY then, will I change my mind and become a believer ..... Until then ? ... I have no choice but to be skeptical about the matter ....
You see: I demand real evidence before I can believe such things like that .... How bout you ? ... You believe in stuff like ghosts and spirits and demons and space alien invasions of planet earth ?
Now .. about my disturbance(s) ... explain them .... Here and now .... I'll be waiting ....