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Sekhmets Daughter

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79. I sincerely thank you for your willingness to serve...

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 01:44 PM

Feb 2013

and I also appreciate your sometime feeling of having been suckered. My brother was on his second tod when he was killed. When he was home for R & R between tours, I couldn't help but feel he had been suckered as well. I kept it to myself as there was nothing to be done about it.

I think I detest the Chickenhawks as much as I do child molesters...so many of our young service people are only a few years beyond childhood themselves.

The generals don't support a draft because of all the discipline problems they had during Vietnam.... IMHO, most of the generals have devolved into Chickenhawks themselves...If they had to lead from the front, I wonder how many of them would be so willing to support wars and 'surges'.

My sincere best wishes for your continued safety.

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Does anybody remember the Left? [View all] Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 OP

Wasn't that some crackpot fringe group that briefly existed during the Bush years? n/t Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #1

Sure, but it's now known as the "radical fringe left" .... Scuba Feb 2013 #2

Yep Solly Mack Feb 2013 #9

too true to be funny... Agony Feb 2013 #25

The cancer that has metastasized throughout our society is the fruit of the radical right's agenda indepat Feb 2013 #102

Yup. I tell everyone these days that I'm a radical lefty and a radical feminist, Raksha Feb 2013 #131

Sounds like a bunch of Commies leftstreet Feb 2013 #3

Exactly! idwiyo Feb 2013 #87

Moonbats whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #4

I do, but it's getting a little lonely out here on the radical fringe! DearHeart Feb 2013 #5

Agreed and Left is... kairos12 Feb 2013 #6

Building sports stadiums employs people too. geckosfeet Feb 2013 #52

Sports Jobs kairos12 Feb 2013 #61

I'm a fan of the Batavia(NY) Muckdogs. pangaia Feb 2013 #90

Ha ha. I was a Rochester Red Wings fan when I lived in the area. geckosfeet Feb 2013 #107

Wow.. Small world. I go to redwings games also. pangaia Feb 2013 #111

Once built, the majority of those jobs are part time and seasonal, not full-time, with benefits. Lars39 Feb 2013 #106

Accurate..... with one little nit Still Sensible Feb 2013 #7

That was certainly true in Vietnam, but Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #11

Agreed. The draft is a good brake on "wars of choice." hay rick Feb 2013 #116

Ending wars of aggression would be much more beneficial Demeter Feb 2013 #44

I believe in a fair draft and of sex and age subject to Vietnam PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #57

There is No Such Thing as a Fair Draft AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #122

There is No Such Thing as a Fair Draft Response PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #137

Well, look at the following things OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #8

Yes, but notice the parallels to the right wing's shiny trinkets. GoneFishin Feb 2013 #35

+1 dreamnightwind Feb 2013 #46

+2 pangaia Feb 2013 #92

The DLC won. xxqqqzme Feb 2013 #98

Yes, let's look at this by all means. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #66

I do, but I am a left wing moonbats nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #10

It's Third Way Manny. There is a big difference, Moonbat. rhett o rick Feb 2013 #12

The draft is bullshit Warpy Feb 2013 #13

Actually, I think we've been through this before. Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #17

You hit the nail on the head. If there had been a draft, it would have been much tougher rhett o rick Feb 2013 #22

No it wouldn't. sibelian Feb 2013 #40

Yes it would. And by the way we werent all "frothing". Many of us were in the streets rhett o rick Feb 2013 #43

They Went to War Despite Massive Demonstrations All Over the Country AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #130

The protests didn't last long enough.... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #135

The Protests Ended Due to the Impending 2004 Election AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #138

AndyTieDye...First anti-war protest in US...Oct., 1962 Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #139

Not a Very Compelling Argument for the Effectiveness of Mass Protests for Ending Wars AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #140

Because of the messenger...not the message. Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #141

We Have to Make Do with the Messengers AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #143

Nothing like knowing your kid won't have to go Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #93

They Would Have Invaded Iran if They Had Enough Cannon Fodder AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #128

I don't think anyone can argue with that: Raksha Feb 2013 #132

Absolutely no exemptions... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #30

Total Agreement and Noblesse Oblige kairos12 Feb 2013 #73

I sincerely thank you for your willingness to serve... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #79

My condolences on the passing of your brother kairos12 Feb 2013 #80

Thank you.... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #82

The rich are multinational Warpy Feb 2013 #126

The super rich are multinational.... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #136

You Were Exempt from the Draft Because You Were Female AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #129

Yep... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #134

Dead Wrong About the Draft AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #14

Ask Dick Cheney, Bush, Rush Limbaugh, Dan Quayle, Bill Clinton (and so on and so forth). Drunken Irishman Feb 2013 #28

Interesting that when I ask the "non-left" Democrats what they stand for rhett o rick Feb 2013 #15

The Centrist Manifesto: bvar22 Feb 2013 #19

Perfect. They are cowards, the lot. nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #20

Whatever THEY tell me is "In the Middle"... bvar22 Feb 2013 #32

..... madfloridian Feb 2013 #54

Because we already own our own party, so we'll just buy yours. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #67

To own both parties (they have the wealth) to control government is so blatantly obvious that I rhett o rick Feb 2013 #72

And you don't even have to make sense MuseRider Feb 2013 #86

Yeah, that's been my experience too....... socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #71

You've actually seen them get pushed into committing to something? white_wolf Feb 2013 #117

Not really or at least not often....... socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #124

They can't answer you MuseRider Feb 2013 #84

If you really want to stump a centrist is ask them how they stand on indefinite detention. rhett o rick Feb 2013 #89

I would hope so as well MuseRider Feb 2013 #94

To be fair sometimes they are able to recite the weekly party-line talking points and that limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #127

never onboard with a draft, ever Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #16

Nor am I as it is just another form Bainbridge Bear Feb 2013 #36

Not too long ago, THAT was Mainstream-Center Democratic Party! bvar22 Feb 2013 #18

Thank you for that. timdog44 Feb 2013 #26

We have moved so far to the right that FDR Bainbridge Bear Feb 2013 #38

FDR? Hell, NIXON seems like a radical now. Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #51

Nixon wasn't he the commie hippie who created the EPA? white_wolf Feb 2013 #53

BVAR thanks for the reminder list... KoKo Feb 2013 #144

Yep I remember it. zeemike Feb 2013 #21

What is going on in WI is what happens during a Leftist drought! hue Feb 2013 #23

Still here LoisB Feb 2013 #24

The Left in this country was essentially destroyed in the '60s deutsey Feb 2013 #27

+1000. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #42

I do Phlem Feb 2013 #29

Yep...some good tunes going 'round in my head... KoKo Feb 2013 #31

Winds of the Old Days Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #50

Yes... KoKo Feb 2013 #62

you'd think democrats would oppose for-profit prisons nt msongs Feb 2013 #33

Good stuff (nt). DirkGently Feb 2013 #34

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #41

I find it interesting you decided to callout a member on your first post. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #45

Left is when we don't lawyer up to explain away torture, spying, assassinations, R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #37

Especially the one on the draft.... 4bucksagallon Feb 2013 #39

There Aren't Enough Rich Kids for That, Even if You Sent Them ALL to the Front AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #133

Message auto-removed helveticas Feb 2013 #47

I miss it too liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #48

This left supports an "Army of None" quaker bill Feb 2013 #49

If the left was not left to be here now RobertEarl Feb 2013 #55

How Last-Century of you, to even ask such a quaint question. 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #56

Actually, I think the Occupy movement is far from dead. Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #70

I agree at least that the jury is still out 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #112

Agree! in all but draft, which I fear will drive more American Exceptionalism, but I would consider patrice Feb 2013 #58

Left means pledging to NOT cut Soc. Security, Medicare and Medicaid... ReallyIAmAnOptimist Feb 2013 #59

Actually, pledging to "Not CUT" SS and Medicare is Reagan Republican, NOT "Left", bvar22 Feb 2013 #91

the dem party remembers the left every four years. KG Feb 2013 #60

Yeah, you got that right! kath Feb 2013 #76

A few years ago, Charlie Rangel proposed bringing back the draft LeftInTX Feb 2013 #63

This is why the GOP is no longer needed by the Elites.... dtom67 Feb 2013 #64

I couldn't agree with you more liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #74

A big part of the strategy is to not allow comments like yours to see the light of day senseandsensibility Feb 2013 #75

Great post. Tell it! kath Feb 2013 #78

Maybe you should make this an OP? senseandsensibility Feb 2013 #88

+1 deutsey Feb 2013 #109

I'll agree that corporations are people Timbuk3 Feb 2013 #65

I miss being out in left field JimDandy Feb 2013 #68

the GOP and the swooners are moving the left to the middle Skittles Feb 2013 #69

This is what happens when you don't care about Dems moving to the center/right. L0oniX Feb 2013 #77

The draft ensured that the children of the wealthy died in equal numbers? abelenkpe Feb 2013 #81

It certainly didn't work that way in Vietnam. Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #85

Most of Them Probably Volunteered AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #121

Much of that is "Liberal" - not "Left" (not that I don't thank you...) bread_and_roses Feb 2013 #83

Maybe. LWolf Feb 2013 #97

Well put bread and roses......... socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #123

I'm still over here on the left. LWolf Feb 2013 #95

I miss it too..... daleanime Feb 2013 #96

I love the liberal left, have been part of it all of my life. But the far left has been slowly demosincebirth Feb 2013 #99

Care to list some of these outrageous demands? n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #100

Far-left? Please, tell me where you've seen them at? white_wolf Feb 2013 #118

Might try looking in the mirror, maybe? Go far to the left and you eventually will meet the demosincebirth Feb 2013 #119

Oh that is such a bullshit line. white_wolf Feb 2013 #120

they are both bullshit, but the logic is there. Hitler and Stalin were complete opposites and demosincebirth Feb 2013 #125

We think left is someplace on our right, but damn, somedays we can't tell our RKP5637 Feb 2013 #101

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #103

DURec Stinky The Clown Feb 2013 #104

"Left is when civil rights are extended to human beings"-One nitpick... YoungDemCA Feb 2013 #105

I miss it too. Laelth Feb 2013 #108

Left is when the rule of law is followed and, at a minimum, war criminals are prosecuted. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #110

Thing is, once you've taken the 'red pill' felix_numinous Feb 2013 #113

Yes, I remember it, and I miss it. eom tledford Feb 2013 #114

I'm afraid we will get another reminder in 2014. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #115

And most importantly (to me anyway)...... socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #142