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In reply to the discussion: Maddow: MSNBC Special on Iraq WMD Will "Upset" Many [View all]Amerigus
(34 posts)123. Why Obama and Congress did nothing...
A couple of people have asked why Obama and Congress did nothing when it seemed evidence showing fraud was so strong. The issue mattered to voters in the 2008 election - one of two major reasons Obama edged out Hillary in the primaries was the fact that she voted for the Iraq war.
When Obama first got into office in January 2009, some held out hope he would prosecute Bush era crimes. When asked, the President said he wanted to look forward, not back. Most people thought he decided not to burn his political capital by starting investigations and prosecutions. But a member of Obama's transition team spoke about the issue when it came up behind closed doors:
Dean Chris Edley [of UC Berkeley] volunteered that hed been party to very high-level discussions during Obamas transition about prosecuting the criminals. He said they decided against it...Two reasons: 1) it was thought that the CIA, NSA, and military would revolt, and 2) it was thought the Repugnants would retaliate by blocking every piece of legislation they tried to move (which, of course, theyve done anyhow).
But even though the Iraq debacle polled as a major issue with voters, no one in the network media would report on it, and no one in Congress would stand up. Some voters expected Congress or President Obama was waiting to take action after inauguration because Bush could no longer pardon his pals, but it never happened.
John Conyers, the chair of the House Judiciary Committee tried a little harder than Obama, calling in 2009 for a special prosecutor because so many "breadcrumbs" suggesting crimes led right to the Bush White House.
But this request got no further than the desk of Attorney General Eric Holder, a "revolving door" appointment who has his own history of questionable activities. The WMD intel crimes met the same dead end as the mortgage fraud crimes that caused the economic collapse. Why? Perhaps it was potentially too "messy", with Democrats too complicit (Chris Dodd, for example, told British ministers the war was inevitable). But sitting Dems may have felt too vulnerable to retribution or blackmail for other improprieties.
Maybe you have an opinion as to why, but Conyers at least did something, Kucinich tried something, Waxman tried something, Feingold spoke up, Cynthia McKinney spoke out, and many localities passed resolutions calling for prosecution. Most in Congress did nothing, beholden to military industrial interests or unwilling to stick their necks out.
The Chilcot Hearings held in the UK also found the Blair administration at fault, speaking much more openly about the deception at the highest levels than we have in the US.
But Obama's appointments and weak stomach for upholding the rule of law continue to be a nagging issue.
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Not extradition, we have it with them since 2001. Most likely water rights.
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#122
Most of us on this board have spent years documenting the lies and crimes of the BFEE.
deminks
Feb 2013
#4
If you think its bullshit, there are links. And it wasnt just the Europeans.
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#21
Your post makes no sense. There was no stopping the Iraq war once W was elected with a GOP House
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#60
You are just wrong and dont want to admit it. You have no argument. Again...
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#65
Saying that most of the politicians THOUGHT Saddam had WMDs reduces them to the level of door
idwiyo
Feb 2013
#70
I am not "peddling" anything but truth. You, on the other hand are peddling bullshit.
idwiyo
Feb 2013
#86
I don't for a minute believe that most politicians in the world thought there were WMD
arikara
Feb 2013
#119
OMFG! "Mmmmm hmmmm." That's all you fucking have to say, Rummy, when you are dead to rights proven a
Dark n Stormy Knight
Feb 2013
#142
At the very least it need not be forgot and since it was 10 years ago, some of our younger friends
Purveyor
Feb 2013
#15
I think there are some of the same cast of characters that are trying the same techniques
Samantha
Feb 2013
#68
A multitude of reasons why 9/11 was an inside job, but all swept under the rug. n/t
truth2power
Feb 2013
#101
The criminals responsible will never be held responsible. So really, what's the point?
MotherPetrie
Feb 2013
#39
This will hit not only the war criminals Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld, but also a few prominent Democrats
FleetwoodMac
Feb 2013
#77
Hans Blix??? Who's that? What would HE know about WMDs, damn ferriner, he can't even
idwiyo
Feb 2013
#138
We have lies and cover ups on a lot of important things. I'll admit, this one is the biggest
Dustlawyer
Feb 2013
#97
I wonder, cant Obama lift the Executive Privilege claim on the minutes of that meeting now?
cstanleytech
Feb 2013
#109
Be it jail, South Africa or Paraguay, it would be nice to rid ourselves of the filth.
lexw
Feb 2013
#124
This is the BEST piece I've seen on HUBRIS, and a GREAT one to show the disbelievers -- short
gateley
Feb 2013
#135
GE hasn't had controlling interest since 2011 when Comcast bought 51% of NBC
DearHeart
Feb 2013
#144