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149. Apparently, it's the hat we see in post #6

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 04:51 PM

Feb 2013

Amazing that all these years later someone would present THAT as evidence.

"If researchers are genuine in their quest to find truth in the UFO phenomena, they must be prepared to accept when cherished UFO "evidence" turns out to be the result of fraud. Such is the case with some very famous flying saucer photos from the early years that are forever emblazoned in many of our memories. They have appeared in countless books and magazines and today on numerous websites. They have continued to keep our minds in wonder over the decades. But we need not wonder any more about four pieces of such "photographic evidence."

It can now be revealed that the world-famous Rex Heflin Photos; the Cumberland "Spaceman" Photo; the Zanesville, OH Barber's photos and the William Rhodes 1947 photos were all hoaxes."

http://ufocon.blogspot.com/2010/10/ufos-that-never-were-classic-photos-now.html

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Apparently, it's the hat we see in post #6 zappaman Feb 2013 #149

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