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lindysalsagal

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63. Thanks for the detail, John1956PA

Reply to John1956PA (Reply #25)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 10:40 PM

Feb 2013

Personally, I can't follow it all at that level of legal detail, but what matters is that those who know about this stuff will, now.

It's interesting that Ratz tried to get in there and do something, but he's just not willing to really pull the trigger and out the entire corruption scheme. He's taking the cowardly way out, and hiding behind the nuns.

This is the detail, along with the church's legal wranglings, that discredits them to the world. Whether or not the family reclaims the money is beside the point.

But it is also interesting that, if not for the greed of the church, the pedophiles in this instance might have been stopped. Quite ironically, it's good old human greed that will ultimately out the church's own conspiracy: She wouldn't have bothered, if not for the money.

7 deadly sins: Greed, greed, greed, Greed, greed, greed,and greed.

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