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pampango

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23. A New York Times artcie in yesterday's paper.
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:31 AM
Feb 2013
Obama Could Revisit Arming Syria Rebels as Assad Holds Firm

The arming plan that was considered last year originated with David H. Petraeus
, then the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, and was supported by former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. The goal was to create allies in Syria that the United States could work with during the conflict and if Mr. Assad was removed from power. Each had a reason for supporting it.

Mr. Petraeus had experience as a general in Iraq training Iraqi fighters and had long worried that militants traveling through Syria to join Al Qaeda in Iraq might one day reverse course and challenge the Assad government. Mrs. Clinton signed on to the initiative after frustration that the Russians had walked away from a transition plan she thought was agreed on in June.

But the president, who had campaigned on the theme that “the tide of war” was receding, was more skeptical, fearing that such a move would, in effect, draw the United States into a proxy war against the Syrian government and its Iranian and Russian backers, with uncertain results. His wariness was reinforced, officials said, by his closest advisers, including Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and the national security adviser, Thomas E. Donilon, both of whom advised against it.

Also skeptical, officials said, was Susan E. Rice, the ambassador to the United Nations.
Her opposition was noteworthy, given that she had pushed for military intervention in Libya.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/world/middleeast/as-assad-holds-firm-obama-could-revisit-arms-policy.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

I do not give Rand Paul any credit for asking questions that are 'based on fact' when he is, in fact, promoting is own partisan theory. According to Paul either Clinton/Patraeus were supplying weapons behind Obama's back or Obama was for it before he was against it? (In one case Obama looks incompetent or in the other, duplicitous.)

If there were evidence to support Paul's theory that Obama knew or should have known, I believe that there are Democrats and liberals in the Senate who are courageous enough to ask the same questions. Instead it is a tea party Senator asking questions straight from a list of Glenn Beck theories.

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McCain's Benghazi obsession is that the US didn't fully follow-through and arm the Syrian rebels leveymg Feb 2013 #1
McCain is upset because we didn't arm Syrian rebels. Rand Paul is upset because he thinks we did. pampango Feb 2013 #14
She wouldn't make much of a poker player. Her response is pure "neither confirm nor deny." leveymg Feb 2013 #15
Or maybe that is what makes a good poker player. pampango Feb 2013 #17
What's your source for "opposed by Biden, Thomas Donilon and Susan Rice."? leveymg Feb 2013 #18
NY Times article last night on Obama reconsidering arming the rebels: TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #20
Thanks - please see my response, #22, immediately below. leveymg Feb 2013 #24
I read this to imply that Susan Rice wanted a direct US military intervention, leveymg Feb 2013 #22
Biden and Donilon 'advised against it' and Rice was 'skeptical'. The article does not indicate that pampango Feb 2013 #28
Read these two sentences together, and that's what it says about Rice's position. leveymg Feb 2013 #30
No it does not. pampango Feb 2013 #31
Recall last May, Rice was pushing for Iraq-style US-NATO action outside a UNSC authorization. leveymg Feb 2013 #34
"Rice did not specify what 'actions' she meant." "There are fears that her words could mean pampango Feb 2013 #35
What else could Rice mean other than "the threat of military action"? That's certainly how they leveymg Feb 2013 #36
A New York Times artcie in yesterday's paper. pampango Feb 2013 #23
Most of the GOP critique is a sort of red herring, and only one publicly addressed the real issue. leveymg Feb 2013 #25
Dream on. mccain will just swear at the panel and walk away. Javaman Feb 2013 #2
I sure as hell wish he'd be confronted by this. . .n/t annabanana Feb 2013 #3
Now you're talkin' libodem Feb 2013 #4
As usual, Republicans set the fires thesquanderer Feb 2013 #5
St. John McCain doth protest too much, Methinks formercia Feb 2013 #6
Note to St. John McCain: formercia Feb 2013 #7
it's a bit clearer to me why the President's held off arming Syrian resistance fighters bigtree Feb 2013 #8
The President sets Foreign Policy formercia Feb 2013 #12
To tell John2 Feb 2013 #9
You're implying that we have a media that will hold him accountable. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2013 #10
It sure looks like the Ambassador is saying to himself, sheshe2 Feb 2013 #11
. bigtree Feb 2013 #13
He Playes The Corporate Media Like A Violin... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #16
k&r... spanone Feb 2013 #19
Amazing how involved he and the GOP were in Libya. TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #21
"Shut up with the damn facts. Grrrrrr." - Sen. Grumpy Grampy (R) Berlum Feb 2013 #26
I get what you're doing, but... Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #27
FOX news wouldn't report this bigtree Feb 2013 #29
McCain is in real life what Ned Beatty's ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2013 #32
Right after Lucifer borrows some propane from me Recursion Feb 2013 #33
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