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olegramps

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87. The neo-cons who formed the PNAC published their intentions years before they stole the election.

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:57 AM

Feb 2013

They petitioned President Clinton to invade Iraq. They published their plan to dominate the Middle
East and secure America's future into the next century. All of this was known but, conveniently ignored by the so-called journalists. Go to Wikipedia and read how they only needed a "Pearl Harbor" as a excuse to put their plan in action. Read how they dominated the Bush 43 administration. Its all there. And it was well known by a number of citizens, but never gained universal publication.

Nobody will ever do anything because the MSM will never fully inform the citizens how they cooperated in deceiving them. The only thing that can force our elected officials to act is intense public pressure and that will never happen in my lifetime. "Hubris" was a start, but it completely ignored the most important aspect of this disaster. The total failure of the Fourth Establishment and in fact became to Bush administration's ally in taking us to war.

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Of All The Frustration... Anger... And Sorrow... I Had While Watching 'Hubris' Tonight... I Kept... [View all] WillyT Feb 2013 OP

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k & r'd Euphoria Feb 2013 #6

Such a God Damn bloody shame MyOwnPeace Feb 2013 #81

K/R (nt) NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #2

K & R gademocrat7 Feb 2013 #3

I'm glad Cheney got a transplant Warpy Feb 2013 #4

You better believe we Taxpayers paid Big Bucks to keep that KoKo Feb 2013 #15

He gets the best care while a man in our town redstatebluegirl Feb 2013 #99

The thing is Cheney is doing everything he can to save his own life AnnieK401 Feb 2013 #65

A White House operative doesn't get that powerful without a whole lot of industry behind him... MrMickeysMom Feb 2013 #82

K & R. n/t Still Sensible Feb 2013 #5

And I thought of this: hay rick Feb 2013 #7

Like I Said... ALL Of Them... WillyT Feb 2013 #8

Amen. hay rick Feb 2013 #9

That pic is so heartbreaking sasha031 Feb 2013 #13

America must face its hypocrisy by trials of B/C bjobotts Feb 2013 #48

Yes, but I truly can't envision that happening. nt hay rick Feb 2013 #51

You're right. But sometimes life has a way unexpected bjobotts Feb 2013 #54

From your lips to God's ears. hay rick Feb 2013 #55

We did, you see hubby was on board a USN sub nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #10

The ending really got to this spouse of an OIF Veteran SaveAmerica Feb 2013 #11

And this one... pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #12

Yes... WillyT Feb 2013 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #63

That's a powerful picture Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #64

Why aren't these sons-of-bitches HeiressofBickworth Feb 2013 #14

Indeed.. And remember this one . .."You are either with us.. or you are with the terrorists".... lib2DaBone Feb 2013 #44

OBL could not have imagined or planned such an incredible coup. CrispyQ Feb 2013 #83

Remember chimp's little comedy routine about "where are the WMDs"? Webster Green Feb 2013 #17

Yes... And Good Question... WillyT Feb 2013 #19

Yes...and I remember the laughs also.. hibbing Feb 2013 #23

wonder if anyone in my family realizes now that i was right. mopinko Feb 2013 #18

You can add this as well. UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 #20

I watched Hubris, and it makes me so angry (again)... Sancho Feb 2013 #21

You think you were mad pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #22

I still don't know why we were in VietNam aquart Feb 2013 #34

Domino Effect Madam Mossfern Feb 2013 #71

Oil companies had the right to drill in the Tonkin Gulf AnotherDreamWeaver Feb 2013 #92

... Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #59

I registered for the draft, never got picked.. Sancho Feb 2013 #67

I hear you. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #86

I have a different view on Afghanistan pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #89

Sometimes I wish there really WAS a hell. nt Bonobo Feb 2013 #24

I hear you pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #26

I believe there is a hell King_Klonopin Feb 2013 #68

I know what you mean, Bonobo tavalon Feb 2013 #101

Sent that pic to Bartcop a long time ago.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #25

Can't Remember Where I First Saw It, But Thank You For That... It Needed To Be Seen... WillyT Feb 2013 #29

I did it in the middle of the squabbling over the Obama v Hillary match... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #30

I think people will want to see this link LongTomH Feb 2013 #93

WOW !!! - THANK YOU FOR THAT !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #97

Rachael Maddow had it on her show a long time ago. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #98

Bitter over Vietnam and Iraq 4 more years Feb 2013 #27

And to think back then they claimed it would never happen again. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #40

They didn't fool the press. Marr Feb 2013 #46

Yes Indeed HangOnKids Feb 2013 #52

Yes. Yours is probably the best lesson we can learn from this. It is still going on. We have to The Wielding Truth Feb 2013 #70

I had five brothers go into the armed services. juajen Feb 2013 #79

I hear you Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2013 #28

I remember the 2004 "Nightline" controversy riverwalker Feb 2013 #31

I knew it was a lie, I knew they wanted war no matter what.....so many were duped Demonaut Feb 2013 #32

Rec obxhead Feb 2013 #33

The Biggest Consequence Of The 2000 Election Hanky Panky colsohlibgal Feb 2013 #35

And it's not just the dead and wounded. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #36

I Had Mixed Feelings DallasNE Feb 2013 #37

I totally agree. n/t loudsue Feb 2013 #78

I agree riverbendviewgal Feb 2013 #85

Remember that for you and me and everyone else here, tavalon Feb 2013 #102

Arlington West and the Vets for Peace -- my people, Chapter 54 Hekate Feb 2013 #38

Lest We Forget... triplepoint Feb 2013 #39

I don't know why, but I can look, unflinchingly, but sadly at the photos unless tavalon Feb 2013 #103

Follow the money. blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #41

cost$1trillion from 9/11 to invasion.$13 trillion profit. bjobotts Feb 2013 #53

It needs a Part II to shed light on Vets suffering with PTSD as well as the legacy SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2013 #42

There must be justice. johnnyreb Feb 2013 #43

And even if you could ignore the cemeteries Mr.Bill Feb 2013 #45

a pit in my stomach... Satch59 Feb 2013 #50

All I lost SCVDem Feb 2013 #47

We lost a member of our family in Iraq. Lugnut Feb 2013 #49

I'm so sorry for your loss. lovemydog Feb 2013 #69

Thoughts on Watching the Iraq War Machine All Over Again:The Pain Never Ends! School Teacher Feb 2013 #56

For the love of humanity... defacto7 Feb 2013 #57

God that photo breaks my heart. calimary Feb 2013 #58

K&R Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #60

These same twisted bastards SCVDem Feb 2013 #61

Bush and the NeoCons killed more Americans with the Iraq War than Osama Bin Laden did on 9/11 AZ Progressive Feb 2013 #62

Yes I felt pure rage malaise Feb 2013 #66

I felt like I was watching the headline version of what actually happened. Ford_Prefect Feb 2013 #72

Dick Cheney is a fucking criminal vlyons Feb 2013 #73

The day after 9/11 I knew Bush would go to war and lunatica Feb 2013 #74

My wife was so mad, she could hardly speak CanonRay Feb 2013 #75

Bring back the Draft mtasselin Feb 2013 #76

I think that the real purpose of showing Hubris at this avebury Feb 2013 #77

Amen. Ford_Prefect Feb 2013 #88

I'm listening to it as a podcast right now... Javaman Feb 2013 #80

I'm sure that thought was universal, WillyT. I said Greybnk48 Feb 2013 #84

The neo-cons who formed the PNAC published their intentions years before they stole the election. olegramps Feb 2013 #87

K&R for my cousin's grandson who committed suicide following his second deployment. classof56 Feb 2013 #90

We the People absolutely must take control of corporations and government. Zorra Feb 2013 #91

Where's John McCain? Scum bag hypocrite. Please proceed Feb 2013 #94

We are all to blame. Where were the protests against the war? The majority of Americans wanted Pisces Feb 2013 #95

But for some reason we have to let the Republican war criminals off the hook Rex Feb 2013 #96

yes, but before we move on hopemountain Feb 2013 #100

<3 Blue4Texas Feb 2013 #104