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38. I thought of that quote as well in regard to "Hubris"
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 12:57 PM
Feb 2013

It sounds just like something O'Brien would've said to Winston Smith in 1984, doesn't it?

I can agree Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #1
Seriously, imagine this... SkyDaddy7 Feb 2013 #162
You wanna talk 9/11? The neocons admitted they needed a "Pearl Harbor-type event" to invade Iraq. chimpymustgo Feb 2013 #165
If you really study how they did it, all they have to do is nothing. It doesn't even have to be on leveymg Feb 2013 #177
I hear what you're saying jollyreaper2112 Feb 2013 #2
It's possible to do both. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2013 #8
the problem with the media jollyreaper2112 Feb 2013 #36
You get no argument from me. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2013 #48
'A democrat gets caught in a sex scandal, he resigns'...uh, clinton? HiPointDem Feb 2013 #103
depends on your value of sex scandal jollyreaper2112 Feb 2013 #110
They will "come back like fungus." AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #34
Vichy Dems jollyreaper2112 Feb 2013 #41
Yes. Veni, Vidi, Vichy. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #67
I'll bastardize the Latin jollyreaper2112 Feb 2013 #70
The fungus analogy disndat Feb 2013 #174
When a well-known influential 3rd-Wayer participated in the promotion of Republican principles AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #175
"...his henchmen were able xxqqqzme Feb 2013 #90
There is not ONE SINGLE new thing in 'Hubris' cali Feb 2013 #3
Respectfully, I didn't take that away from the OP at all. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2013 #9
Very good cali.... Tippy Feb 2013 #19
The OP didn't say that nobody spoke out. Calm down. yardwork Feb 2013 #63
You have to read between the lines. zeemike Feb 2013 #83
Wow, you are dead wrong in your interpretation of what I wrote... CoffeeCat Feb 2013 #97
You got that right! JuniperLea Feb 2013 #115
There is plenty of truth in the OP BlueStreak Feb 2013 #133
Very good point and astute observation. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2013 #4
Air America nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #10
Ah, forgot about that. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2013 #24
A LIFE saver for my sanity in those days! nt patrice Feb 2013 #44
Very true treestar Feb 2013 #5
It's not like Keith Olbermann never talked about this stuff. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #6
Rachel did not have a show in 2002 or 2003. karynnj Feb 2013 #31
Corporate conspiracies mean nothing if people stand up for the truth. randome Feb 2013 #7
Correct-aside from Keith and Air America - there was no public outcry of the outrage KaryninMiami Feb 2013 #15
*Except for the millions of people who took to the streets. nt IdaBriggs Feb 2013 #20
yep.... dhill926 Feb 2013 #25
All day long on CSpan... JuniperLea Feb 2013 #117
Yes- I was one of them but the media barely covered it. KaryninMiami Feb 2013 #30
Put 10 teabaggers on the corner and see what coverage they get. 6000eliot Feb 2013 #157
+ 10 million (Number of people world wide who protested) n/t truedelphi Feb 2013 #118
keith & air america didn't exist when the war started. there was basically no one in the msm HiPointDem Feb 2013 #153
Well, there was Phil Donahue, maddiemom Feb 2013 #166
Google "Operation Mockingbird." They say that it has been discontinued. n/t AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #11
Maybe the name has, but not the operation itself. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #58
Thank You for this... haikugal Feb 2013 #73
K&R forestpath Feb 2013 #12
The reason humanity seems like a mindless zombie consuming life is Coyotl Feb 2013 #13
Charlie Pierce just made a GREAT point about "Hubris" on Steph Miller's show this A.M. bullwinkle428 Feb 2013 #14
MSNBC was complicit. grasswire Feb 2013 #35
and they still are Mnpaul Feb 2013 #109
you said it way better than I did. nt Viva_La_Revolution Feb 2013 #16
k/r Solly Mack Feb 2013 #17
It's true. They create their own reality. Baitball Blogger Feb 2013 #18
Excellent post! City Lights Feb 2013 #21
That quote should be in front of the public every day. It's importance wiggs Feb 2013 #22
Thanks for this... TheProgressive Feb 2013 #23
Wow!!! When I Read That Quote By Rove - It Makes The Hair On The Back Of My Neck Stand Out.... global1 Feb 2013 #26
Can't expand, but have a recollection of it... JuniperLea Feb 2013 #116
The MSM is controlled by 6 multi-national corporations watoos Feb 2013 #27
Creating reality MuseRider Feb 2013 #28
The key was owning the media. UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 #29
In 2001, Ann Coulter said.... grasswire Feb 2013 #32
Agreed. And an important part of the implementation of the whole thing has been the recognition patrice Feb 2013 #33
This is important haikugal Feb 2013 #77
I'm not sure they did. There were some people around OWS who were close to others who patrice Feb 2013 #98
I still don't get the practical definition TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #151
General usage: intolerant views or practices; strong demogogic approach; obedience to strong leader patrice Feb 2013 #154
Okay, I see where you are coming from. TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #185
It aired now in response to McCain's questioning of Hagel. Marr Feb 2013 #37
I thought of that quote as well in regard to "Hubris" deutsey Feb 2013 #38
Maybe I'm wrong MynameisBlarney Feb 2013 #39
CoffeeCat may be referring to the fact that ALL of the necessary information was publicly patrice Feb 2013 #50
I was trying to make the point... CoffeeCat Feb 2013 #96
D'oh! MynameisBlarney Feb 2013 #99
Well, I understand... CoffeeCat Feb 2013 #139
well done CoffeeCat barbtries Feb 2013 #40
A current issue is climate. freedom fighter jh Feb 2013 #42
So shouldn't this mean that aggressive behavior against "history's actors" is pretty much necessary? AZ Progressive Feb 2013 #93
What's necessary, I think, is to see that the truth prevails. freedom fighter jh Feb 2013 #143
Excellent post Auggie Feb 2013 #43
That quote by Rove chilled me to the bone. Zorra Feb 2013 #45
I think another thing that is affecting our ability to respond is how we compartmentalize our ISSUES patrice Feb 2013 #46
I think it has has much to do with who now owns NBC... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #47
that is a very important observation about GE--good point! renate Feb 2013 #54
I'm old enough to remember Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #59
Yes, exactly...And the energy companies are some of the worst culprits... CoffeeCat Feb 2013 #94
If you consider Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #107
If we developed fusion energy the oil era would end Occulus Feb 2013 #121
Are you talking cold fusion? Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #122
Nope. Star in a bottle. Occulus Feb 2013 #124
Thanks... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #134
Very well said. The reality is so chilling (nt) CoffeeCat Feb 2013 #129
Some lessons scar you for life.... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #132
I would dare to say... CoffeeCat Feb 2013 #140
Excellent observation as to the twisted psyches Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #142
Comcast bought out the remainder of GE's interest in NBC on 2-12-2013.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #64
I wasn't certain the deal had approval.... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #69
Dangerous onpatrol98 Feb 2013 #131
Of course it is all about profit... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #137
Phil Donahue tried to expose it and MSNBC FIRED HIM because of it. progressoid Feb 2013 #49
Yes, Chris "we're all Neocons now" Matthews and his fawning over Bush's Mission Accomplished moment maddiemom Feb 2013 #168
what we have now and hopefully they won't take away is riverbendviewgal Feb 2013 #51
You knew they were all lying when Phil Donague tried to tell the truth and they southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #52
Exactly! n/t truedelphi Feb 2013 #119
+ 10000 raouldukelives Feb 2013 #53
I wrote this yesterday... Javaman Feb 2013 #55
Excellent post.. haikugal Feb 2013 #87
Karma will not be kind to the Rove Man I tinks? benld74 Feb 2013 #56
ICAM. So where do you think Obama fits in? To what degree is he complicit? MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #57
There are a couple of possibilities. The CT version is that he made a deal with the devil rhett o rick Feb 2013 #147
Maybe it's a combination of the two. If it's the latter, I think his legacy is already tarnished MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #172
That is the million dollar question... CoffeeCat Feb 2013 #167
You make some good points. Bottom line for me is I have seen no evidence Obama is even fighting it. MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #171
x2 AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #176
No one could have said it better. OLDMDDEM Feb 2013 #60
This is true and it's why Cheney caused 9/11 to happen as well. yardwork Feb 2013 #61
Totally agree! radhika Feb 2013 #62
We knew what we were headed for by the caliber of the man...Where was the careful vetting by the... Tikki Feb 2013 #65
At least they are out of power at the moment Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2013 #66
Yes, and I love Obama's choice of Hagel... CoffeeCat Feb 2013 #105
Truth. Remember the neocons were already in El Salvador Taverner Feb 2013 #68
Too late to do anything about it. The only justice will come when these people burn in hell! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2013 #71
Yes, they make things up Blue4Texas Feb 2013 #72
It was based on this book, published in 2007 BainsBane Feb 2013 #74
Just a point of fact: Rachael's show didn't start until 2008, Keith's in 2003, Cooper Sept 2003. Fla Dem Feb 2013 #75
Right. It prevents NOTHING. Whoever controls the anthrax controls the world. nt valerief Feb 2013 #76
Takeover warning 12zelda12 Feb 2013 #78
Also when Cheney was still with Haliburton EC Feb 2013 #79
For most, war is hell. For Dick, war is business. Blue Owl Feb 2013 #80
Just cleaning up the quote a bit: Strat0 Feb 2013 #81
Thanks for the full quote. Its always good to get to the source. Welcome to DU! nt riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #88
well, let's not forget the how and why that's possible stupidicus Feb 2013 #82
I agree with every word you said. Stinky The Clown Feb 2013 #84
Forget Ayn Rand.It's always seemed that Rove and his ilk read Huxley and Welles maddiemom Feb 2013 #173
Media control has weakened, thankfully. Control of politics and media matters. Boycott $$$ Media. Coyotl Feb 2013 #85
Yes, the Internet has made a mockery of the MSM, hasn't it? CoffeeCat Feb 2013 #100
I propose they devise their future realities from a prison. jinx1 Feb 2013 #86
Phil Donahue spoke out at MSNBC. They fired him because of it. Zen Democrat Feb 2013 #89
K&R. Too little, too late. You've certainly nailed that head, but make no mistake, it is still Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #91
THIS is the REAL reality AZ Progressive Feb 2013 #92
Except it did air back then, in real time Recursion Feb 2013 #95
and meanwhile new crimes are being committed that we are not allowed to talk about, are called HiPointDem Feb 2013 #101
some things don't change... ensemble Feb 2013 #150
This has been a HUGE laundry_queen Feb 2013 #178
+1. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #181
MSNBC Led The Cheers For That War colsohlibgal Feb 2013 #102
Very well said malaise Feb 2013 #104
And now history has decided unanimously to label Rove as a terrorist Rex Feb 2013 #106
Kick for the sad, unvarnished truth n/t Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #108
No wmd astalfort Feb 2013 #111
well said. and welcome to DU! NRaleighLiberal Feb 2013 #123
Republicans like to rename their crimes, felix_numinous Feb 2013 #112
So when are we the people going to get really pissed and do something about those fuckers??????? Hotler Feb 2013 #113
Sadly, you are right. But there may be some people who have finally become Squinch Feb 2013 #114
Except Real Reality Has Real Consequences Skraxx Feb 2013 #120
She didn't have a show back then George II Feb 2013 #125
Air America JuniperLea Feb 2013 #126
Not that it really matters; she got her first show in mid-2005, long after the run-up and invasion. George II Feb 2013 #144
That's 1 year after the invasion. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2013 #145
The point of the OP is not so much about Rachel but about why a program like HUBRIS Uncle Joe Feb 2013 #128
K&R Jamastiene Feb 2013 #127
Accurate. davidthegnome Feb 2013 #130
I believe the Suskind quote was much earlier. Fuddnik Feb 2013 #135
The military bases used to invade Afghanistan were also in place before 9-11 PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #136
I agree with what you say, but when I post a thread Dustlawyer Feb 2013 #138
You're not wrong on this. Don't feel alone. I'd K & R such a thread. ancianita Feb 2013 #184
K n R One of the best summaries I've seen here in a while. There is actually... mojowork_n Feb 2013 #141
Here, here. Well said. Hopefully you are not preaching to the choir and some of the lurkers MichaelSoE Feb 2013 #146
The glass is half full? xtraxritical Feb 2013 #148
You're not being cynical, you're just being reality-based. rocktivity Feb 2013 #149
some people are hearing this for the first time Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2013 #152
You forgot to mention the election Chico Man Feb 2013 #155
We, also, can act. n/t Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #156
'Hubris Isn't the Half of It' Fedaykin Feb 2013 #158
Yep... Veri1138 Feb 2013 #159
I would say only BEZERKO Feb 2013 #160
Why would... sendero Feb 2013 #161
This is the big frustration... CoffeeCat Feb 2013 #170
A wingnut I work with... sendero Feb 2013 #180
It Madmiddle Feb 2013 #163
Learning from history libdude Feb 2013 #164
"It doesn't have to stay this way" ProSense Feb 2013 #169
Letting it air now allows MSNBC to make the claim the media are ''liberal.'' Octafish Feb 2013 #179
+1 HiPointDem Feb 2013 #182
The traitors are so arrogant, they know if they break the law, they won't be punished. Octafish Feb 2013 #183
k & r! Well said. nt wildbilln864 Feb 2013 #186
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