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In reply to the discussion: Why the LAPD's Hunt for Dorner Is Indefensible [View all]davidcay
(22 posts)51. from the author of the piece
I do wish posters here would read what I wrote in full, available at Salon.com or AlterNet.org, before posting and then focus on the issue I wrote about -- which was not about Dorner, but about how the fusillade of bullets fired without warning at two women in a blue pickup was far outside of LAPD policy. (The second shooting was by Torrance PD.)
In the 80s I reported on LAPD management for the LATimes, documenting a failure to solve crimes, massive political spying, brutality and other abuses. This was the first sustained independent examination ever of the LAPD.
My Salon.com piece does not defend Dorner, as some posters here seem to think. To those noting that, thank you.
Of course the police needed to catch Dorner before he killed more innocent people (like the daughter of an officer and her fiance) or officers (like the ambushed Riverside cops and the San Bernadino deputy).
But searching for a large black man in a grey Nissan Titan pickup does not justify shooting at two Latinas in a blue Toyota Tacoma pickup or a slight male surfer in a black Honda Ridgeline.
My Salon piece links to the LAPD policies, which cannot be reconciled with the attack on these innocent women.
To the angry posters here who seem to ignore or justify the LAPD shootings: How you would feel if, without warning, police shot at your wife or mother? They fired not one or two shots and then assessed, as policy and training require, but instead got off dozens of shots, many of which went wildly into homes. Second, do you think police are a law unto themselves or that must operate in accord with the policies of their departments and the law?
And if you plan to reply to this, again, please read my piece at http://www.salon.com/2013/02/16/lapds_indefensible_dorner_pursuit/
Thank you.
David Cay Johnston
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And I have serious doubts that we'll have a fair accounting of their actions any time soon
MrScorpio
Feb 2013
#7
Depends on how much the city wants to pay the victims when they file suit.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#40
Right. They didn't want him to talk about how much he despised lesbians and his high school teacher.
randome
Feb 2013
#14
The article doesn't criticize what they did to Dorner. It criticizes what they did
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#17
Why are people still writing articles about it? The credits have rolled on that one. nt
EastKYLiberal
Feb 2013
#10
Because the underlying issue of police abuse of power is much, much bigger than this case n/t
markpkessinger
Feb 2013
#49
Which is why I'm sure that they didn't want the Press to witness how they took him down
MrScorpio
Feb 2013
#18
Oh… So, accusations of racist behavior by the LAPD is just the stuff that fuels conspiracy theories?
MrScorpio
Feb 2013
#28
I'm merely recognizing the fact that there were other ex-LAPD who have supported his allegations
MrScorpio
Feb 2013
#34
You act as if racism allegations against the LAPD depended on his testimony.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#35
Again, the LAPD's response to Dorner's rampage and their subsequent handling of his accusations…
MrScorpio
Feb 2013
#41
You'll note that I more or less agree with you on the need to investigate the LAPD.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#42
Show me what in the OP prompted your massive verbiage? Noting in it suggests support of
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#44
What does that have to do with their opening fire, without warning, on various citizens?
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#38
and this thread is about what the cops did to citizens who were not Dorner. One issue.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#46
GT must control all DU discussions on anything related to the LAPD/Dorner case.
shcrane71
Feb 2013
#54
No, that is attempted murder the career path should be discussed with the warden.
TheKentuckian
Feb 2013
#56
Indefenible and also sadly typical of LAPD and associated California law enforcment
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#37
Thanks for your excellent reporting and your additional input here, Mr. Johnston
MrScorpio
Feb 2013
#53