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mia

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33. I became familiar with the "Alinsky method" the hard way.
Sun Jan 29, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jan 2012

When I joined the teachers union over 15 years ago I attended the union stewards meetings on a regular basis. I was not a steward, but meetings were open to all members.
After attending a few meetings I voiced my concerns about a health insurance issue. I was surprised (and flattered) to be invited to be part of a consensus building committee.
Several committee meetings later I realized the ruse of consensus building. Back then I researched "consensus building" and found many articles that referred to Alinsky.
That name always brings to mind manipulation and deceit for me.

I still belong to the union but believe that all of the issues that we members vote on have already been decided. It's just a matter of discrediting the naysayers or convincing them to agree to the wisdom of their decisions. My dues to the union feel more like protection money.



Alinksy Method / Delphi Technique
http://overmanwarrior.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/the-delphi-technique-how-it-works/

Have you ever been to a public meeting, like a school board meeting, or a city council meeting, or a trustee public hearing on a zoning change, only to find out that the decisions had been made before the meeting ever began? And on your way home from those meetings where you had stood up and voiced your opinion, but the group preceded anyway in spite of your protests and asked yourself why you even bothered. It’s because of The Delphi Technique or some variation of it which is designed to build group consensus for a desired idea while creating the illusion of community participation. The Delphi Technique is something that everyone needs to understand. Since intellectuals began to implement these types of manipulative studies, which require specialized training to use and understand, techniques like the Delphi have subverted our election process in a subtle way nationally by subverting common sense logic in favor of a socialist oriented group conscious founded on illusion, because the end results are most of the time pre-determined....

The Delphi Technique and consensus building are both founded in the same principle – the Hegelian dialectic of thesis, antithesis, and synthesis, with synthesis becoming the new thesis. The goal is a continual evolution to “oneness of mind” (consensus means solidarity of belief) -the collective mind, the wholistic society, the wholistic earth, etc. In thesis and antithesis, opinions or views are presented on a subject to establish views and opposing views. In synthesis, opposites are brought together to form the new thesis. All participants in the process are then to accept ownership of the new thesis and support it, changing their views to align with the new thesis. Through a continual process of evolution, “oneness of mind” will supposedly occur....



The Delphi Technique — What Is It?
http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation_process/acf001.htm

The Delphi Technique was originally conceived as a way to obtain the opinion of experts without necessarily bringing them together face to face. In recent times, however, it has taken on an all new meaning and purpose. In Educating for the New World Order by B. Eakman, the reader finds reference upon reference for the need to preserve the illusion that there is "…lay, or community, participation (in the decision-making process), while lay citizens were, in fact, being squeezed out." The Delphi Technique is the method being used to squeeze citizens out of the process, effecting a left-wing take over of the schools.

A specialized use of this technique was developed for teachers, the "Alinsky Method" (ibid, p.123). The setting or group is, however, immaterial; the point is that people in groups tend to share a certain knowledge base and display certain identifiable characteristics (known as group dynamics). This allows for a special application of a basic technique.

The change agent or facilitator goes through the motions of acting as an organizer, getting each person in the target group to elicit expression of their concerns about a program, project, or policy in question. The facilitator listens attentively, forms "task forces," "urges everyone to make lists," and so on. While s/he is doing this, the facilitator learns something about each member of the target group. S/He identifies the "leaders," the "loud mouths," as well as those who frequently turn sides during the argument — the "weak or noncommittal".

Suddenly, the amiable facilitator becomes "devil's advocate." S/He dons his professional agitator hat. Using the "divide and conquer" technique, s/he manipulates one group opinion against the other. This is accomplished by manipulating those who are out of step to appear "ridiculous, unknowledgeable, inarticulate, or dogmatic." S/He wants certain members of the group to become angry, thereby forcing tensions to accelerate. The facilitator is well trained in psychological manipulation. S/He is able to predict the reactions of each group member. Individuals in opposition to the policy or program will be shut out of the group....



The Delphi Technique — How to Disrupt It
http://www.learn-usa.com/transformation_process/acf002.htm

Ground rules for disrupting the consensus process (Delphi Technique) — when facilitators want to steer a group in a specific direction.

1) Always Be Charming. Smile, be pleasant, be courteous, moderate your voice so as not to come across as belligerent or aggressive.

2) Stay Focused. If at all possible, write your question down to help you stay focused. Facilitators, when asked questions they don't want to answer, often digress from the issue raised and try to work the conversation around to where they can make the individual asking the question look foolish, feel foolish, appear belligerent or aggressive. The goal is to put the one asking the question on the defensive. Do not fall for this tactic. Always be charming, thus deflecting any insinuation, innuendo, etc, that may be thrown at you in their attempt to put you on the defensive, but bring them back to the question you asked. If they rephrase your question into an accusatory statement (a favorite tactic) simply state, "that is not what I stated, what I asked was… (repeat your question)." Stay focused on your question.

3) Be Persistent. If putting you on the defensive doesn't work, facilitators often resort to long drawn out dissertations on some off-the-wall and usually unrelated, or vaguely related, subject that drags on for several minutes – during which time the crowd or group usually loses focus on the question asked (which is the intent). Let them finish with their dissertation/expose, then nicely, with focus and persistence, state, "but you didn't answer my question. My question was… (repeat your question)."[i/i]


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never heard of him until this thread mdmc Jan 2012 #1
He was talked about much in the 2008 campaign cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #2
I never heard of him. provis99 Jan 2012 #3
I'd heard of him, but I'm old. He was pretty well-known in the '60s. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2012 #4
Same here OffWithTheirHeads Jan 2012 #13
Me too on both counts. Know who Alinsky is may be a function of how old one is pampango Jan 2012 #50
Never. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #5
not all that obscure-- I certainly knew about him niyad Jan 2012 #6
Ditto! You beat me to it by a minute, I think, niyad. elleng Jan 2012 #9
by just a minute!! two great minds. . . niyad Jan 2012 #10
YUP! elleng Jan 2012 #14
I've heard of him. Hillary was a fan. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #7
If by "fan" you mean "thought his model was ineffective", yes. boppers Jan 2012 #46
Yes he is/was prominent, but I don't think of 'radicalism.' elleng Jan 2012 #8
Never. snagglepuss Jan 2012 #11
Here's a good article from the Chicago Sun Times ("Newt needs a lesson about Saul Alinsky") MidwestTransplant Jan 2012 #12
not me. Quantess Jan 2012 #15
I have to admit I did a Bill Maher--googled his ass! nt MADem Jan 2012 #16
Same. boppers Jan 2012 #48
GOP obsessed with him riverwalker Jan 2012 #17
Lots of Amazon.com customers have ... eppur_se_muova Jan 2012 #18
Never had heard of him Lifelong Protester Jan 2012 #19
Me. Rules for radicals. Warren Stupidity Jan 2012 #20
In the 80s we had a film in the college collection called "Saul Alinsky Goes to War" nt Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2012 #21
Before Newt? Yes. Before they started blabbering about him in 2008? No. drm604 Jan 2012 #22
i survived of the 60`s madrchsod Jan 2012 #23
Me and the Spousal Unit. Course we went to liberal egghead colleges TalkingDog Jan 2012 #24
Rules For Radicals is on my book shelf loyalsister Jan 2012 #25
Long time ago. madamesilverspurs Jan 2012 #26
+1 nt bemildred Jan 2012 #27
me grasswire Jan 2012 #28
Saw a story of him when rallied the poor of Chicago MMJjestic Jan 2012 #29
"Rules for Radicals" was listed in the Whole Earth Catalog after 1971. greendog Jan 2012 #30
LOL !!! - Great Stuff Here... WillyT Jan 2012 #31
When Glenn Beck was still on FoxNews he mentioned him all the time while bashing Obama & Democrats Tx4obama Jan 2012 #32
Here you go... Major Nikon Jan 2012 #37
Thank you for finding it :) n/t Tx4obama Jan 2012 #39
I became familiar with the "Alinsky method" the hard way. mia Jan 2012 #33
Bottom line, his name sounds Jewish and sounds like "Trotsky". Mayberry Machiavelli Jan 2012 #34
He was a key source for anti Vietnam strategies. grantcart Jan 2012 #35
I had but I've worked with community organizations n/t Gormy Cuss Jan 2012 #36
I read a Playboy Interview with him in the early 70s. MarianJack Jan 2012 #38
Never heard of him until Newt referred to him. n/t kiranon Jan 2012 #40
I knew of him and studied his methods dixiegrrrrl Jan 2012 #41
The name is new to me. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #42
I have, but the first time was the 2008 campaign RZM Jan 2012 #43
I heard of him -- even before the 2008 campaign. Jim Lane Jan 2012 #44
The Beck-heads were talking about him during the 2008 election. backscatter712 Jan 2012 #45
I love Bill Maher and this clip does a lot more than just explain Alinsky renie408 Jan 2012 #52
Yes. ellisonz Jan 2012 #47
A little Prophet 451 Jan 2012 #49
For us old folks who went to college in the 70's or 80's, his book was used in some poli sci classes FlaGatorJD Jan 2012 #51
I am familiar with his name but have no idea what he was pushing even thought I did buy one of his jwirr Jan 2012 #53
He was a good friend. GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #54
I just picked up Rules for Radicals myself. backscatter712 Jan 2012 #55
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