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MadHound

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24. Yep, the devil is in the details,

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:34 AM

Feb 2013

First smokers are going to be forced to pay more, now anybody deemed "overweight", next probably drinkers or those engaged in high risk activities.

Wait until the ACA really kicks in, complete with barely regulated provisions that allow the insurance industry to jack up insurance premiums because hey, you are legally required to purchase health insurance.

This is going to be a disaster, but what else can you expect from a health "reform" program that started its life out under Nixon, was adapted next by the Heritage Foundation, then by Romney before being passed into law and signed by a center right president.

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NPR: "Money Replaces Willpower In Programs Promoting Weight Loss" (aka Obese People Pay More $$$) [View all] IdaBriggs Feb 2013 OP

Good. Why should those of use who take care of ourselves have to subsidize those who don't? Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #1

I hope you don't develop pipoman Feb 2013 #9

Why do you think that people with more accidents pay more for car insurance? Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #15

So then I guess you believe African Americans pipoman Feb 2013 #22

Interesting. My family (including me) are currently healthy. IdaBriggs Feb 2013 #10

Bring overweight isn't healthy Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #13

Neither is riding a motorcycle, skydiving, pipoman Feb 2013 #17

Some activities carry more risks than others Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #20

Yep, and your activities will come right after pipoman Feb 2013 #26

My heart is fine. My lungs are fine. My blood pressure is fine. IdaBriggs Feb 2013 #19

Do you exercise? Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #23

I have active (almost) six year old twins - what do you think? IdaBriggs Feb 2013 #25

Then it would not apply to you Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #28

"who do not exercise" - who gets to define what that is? IdaBriggs Feb 2013 #31

How do you prove exercise? NutmegYankee Feb 2013 #35

Exactly. This will be the sticking point Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #46

+1. it's an excuse to track people, as all this crap is. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #50

Should that same thinking apply to those who by choice take risk of injury others do not? Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #16

Yes Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #18

You must really love the pre-existing condition limitations pipoman Feb 2013 #30

i think that would only be fair if they had a gym and gave folks time to use it NMDemDist2 Feb 2013 #2

How about rating up because of pipoman Feb 2013 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #3

Fine and dandy.. pipoman Feb 2013 #6

I am currently healthy. Haven't required any "extra" health care IdaBriggs Feb 2013 #14

I remember a lot of people pipoman Feb 2013 #4

Just wait... sadbear Feb 2013 #27

First, they came for the smokers Glitterati Feb 2013 #5

Naw, I think it will be drinking next. LisaLynne Feb 2013 #8

They've already done drinking Glitterati Feb 2013 #12

That's not drinking. That's drinking and driving. nolabear Feb 2013 #37

John Ashcroft Glitterati Feb 2013 #38

The "drinking and driving" crew have already displayed disregard for public safety. IdaBriggs Feb 2013 #40

I don't know what to say. You give someone like this Glitterati Feb 2013 #41

Smokers impact the health / well being of those around them. IdaBriggs Feb 2013 #42

Oh, BULL! Glitterati Feb 2013 #43

Obese people are not giving the people around them cancer. IdaBriggs Feb 2013 #44

Heart attack, diabetes, sure Glitterati Feb 2013 #47

Agreed. HappyMe Feb 2013 #34

GATTACA. nt Bonobo Feb 2013 #11

On our way there, aren't we? The *risk* starts to define the *life* -- IdaBriggs Feb 2013 #21

And all this support right here on a supposedly liberal board.. pipoman Feb 2013 #32

A herd of cats - or is that a "pride" of cats? We are all so very proud IdaBriggs Feb 2013 #39

Yep, the devil is in the details, MadHound Feb 2013 #24

Fucked up. Slippery slope. Cal Carpenter Feb 2013 #29

Having to pay the NRA if I did not lose weight cally Feb 2013 #33

I won't lie - that would be motivation for me, too! Lol! IdaBriggs Feb 2013 #36

The statistics are dismal spinbaby Feb 2013 #45

Did you extend the same sympathy to smokers who tried to quit and failed? Glitterati Feb 2013 #48

What makes you think I don't? spinbaby Feb 2013 #49

LOL, because it's DU Glitterati Feb 2013 #51

I like to believe that most of us are kind spinbaby Feb 2013 #54

The difference between smoking and being obese is that are proven methods hedgehog Feb 2013 #52

Healthy people end up costing more at least in the long run. Kalidurga Feb 2013 #53