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In reply to the discussion: Sirota: Warren not interested in ‘Hillary Clinton model’ of sitting down and shutting up \ [View all]calimary
(91,611 posts)All other things being equal - that's what finally determined how I voted in the 2008 primary. She carried California. But I just couldn't do it - and for me the deal-breaker was that she fell for the bush/cheney lies and Barack Obama didn't. I realize clearly that he wasn't IN the Senate when it came time to vote on the war. But he'd maintained an opposition all along and for me, that counted a LOT.
What really bothered me was this: I have always been greatly impressed with Hillary Clinton's towering intellect, her brains, her brilliance, her ability to cut through many things. Brains are pretty big with me. I'm the one who liked Spock when everybody else was sighing over Captain Kirk. My husband's a nerd and a geek and an egghead. I'd take a Paul Krugman or a Neil deGrasse Tyson over some football player or hunky movie star - ANY day! Her intelligence is formidable as hell! In terms of sheer intellect, no one touches her. Yet with all that brainpower, she still allowed herself to be snowed. She was STILL taken in. And I'd have expected Hillary Clinton, of all people, to have seen through it and resisted. SURELY someone as smart as she is would have known or would have seen at least SOME of the information we all saw - that was more than enough to convince many many millions of us. She HAD to have seen or heard at least some of it. Or somebody on her staff had to have seen at least some of it, and brought it to her attention - or tried to. I mean, CRIMINY! If WE lay people and outsiders and non-pros could get that information and study it and analyze it and discuss it and vet it fully and conclude, correctly, that the case for war was an utter fraud, WHY COULDN'T SHE? That always bothered me a lot. It still does.