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dreampunk

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32. As McCain wet started his A-4E
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:46 PM
Feb 2013

McCain crashed 5 jets, plus was responsible for the Forrestal fire. Something made the plane behind McCain fire a rocket, which hit McCain's external center fuel tank, and caused a fire. McCain panicked, and dropped two bombs into the fire.
Surviving crewmen of the USS Forestal and those who investigated the Forrestal fire case reported that McCain deliberately 'wet-started' his A-4E Skyhawk to shake up the guy in the F-4 Phantom behind his plane.
'Wet-starts', done either deliberately (the starter motor switch allowed kerosene to pool in the engine and give a wet start) or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.'Wet starting' was a common practice among young 'hot-dog' pilots.
In McCain's case, the 'wet-start''cooked off' and launched the M34 Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that punctured the Skyhawk's fueltank, knocked the M-65 1000 lb bomb off it's 500 lb rated mount, and touched off the explosions and massive fire.

When the carrier Oriskany came along side, and McCain was put in a chopper and whisked away. McCain was the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred .I have a hunch McCain left for his own safety, because the crew wanted blood.

http://www.topix.com/forum/who/cnn/TIPHLLITR99DU2OKV

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Of course, Hagel's actual vote of Yes on the invasion of Iraq mitigates his late date qualms Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #1
Same is true for Hillary Clinton and Kerry I suppose. JoePhilly Feb 2013 #2
So, now pointing out treason, is treason? Volaris Feb 2013 #5
It's treason against the GOP in this case JoePhilly Feb 2013 #12
You say that as if I claimed otherwise. I did not mentionn others. I do not want either to be Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #6
They are the same on the topic of Iraq. JoePhilly Feb 2013 #14
They are not the same on LGBT rights, not the same on choice, not the same on anything else. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #15
Actually ... JoePhilly Feb 2013 #33
k&r... spanone Feb 2013 #3
No wonder grouchy McCain is pissed! Hagel was spot on speaking from experience and history! Dustlawyer Feb 2013 #4
My but Miss Condi libodem Feb 2013 #7
That was my thought too zeemike Feb 2013 #16
Those are some mean libodem Feb 2013 #18
Hagle voted to confirm her anyway. So what was the value of the threatrics? Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #21
Possibly because he believes that the President should have his choice of cabinet, barring TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #23
Well if that is the case his going to the press to attack President Clinton's nominee Mr Hormel Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #28
That had more to do with the Catholic/gay pride-related controversy surrounding Hormel, IIRC-- TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #29
Look at those libodem Feb 2013 #35
That's how she always looked in those hearings PatSeg Feb 2013 #24
Yes--Bush made an absolute fool of her near the end of his second term, in regard to TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #26
It often looked like she was their token "girl" PatSeg Feb 2013 #30
I don't know if this is the real reason n2doc Feb 2013 #8
This makes me want him as Sec'y of Defense. Bucky Feb 2013 #9
This video is the guy everyone wanted to see at the hearings: TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #10
here's the link to that article CitizenPatriot Feb 2013 #11
That article claims he opposed the war at the start, but he supported it and voted for it... Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #17
David Corn's take on Hagel's IWR vote-- TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #19
It says he spoke out against it CitizenPatriot Feb 2013 #20
But how does that make him 'one of the few'? He voted with the majority, he voted Yes. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #25
It's not about the confirmation of Rice CitizenPatriot Feb 2013 #34
I was in Vietnam when the Cambodian bombing started madokie Feb 2013 #13
madokie, dreampunk Feb 2013 #22
Welcome to DU madokie Feb 2013 #27
Wow - Condi (R) screws her face up into some, mean ugly looks Berlum Feb 2013 #31
As McCain wet started his A-4E dreampunk Feb 2013 #32
That is crazy wild wacked out libodem Feb 2013 #36
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