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In reply to the discussion: Sirota: Warren not interested in ‘Hillary Clinton model’ of sitting down and shutting up \ [View all]progressoid
(53,407 posts)104. Actually, the agreement to leave Iraq was made before Obama became President
The U.S.Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: "Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq"
was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement
In fact the administration tried to extend our stay there.
The U.S. is abandoning plans to keep U.S. troops in Iraq past a year-end withdrawal deadline, The Associated Press has learned. The decision to pull out fully by January will effectively end more than eight years of U.S. involvement in the Iraq war, despite ongoing concerns about its security forces and the potential for instability.
The decision ends months of hand-wringing by U.S. officials over whether to stick to a Dec. 31 withdrawal deadline that was set in 2008 or negotiate a new security agreement to ensure that gains made and more than 4,400 American military lives lost since March 2003 do not go to waste.
In recent months, Washington has been discussing with Iraqi leaders the possibility of several thousand American troops remaining to continue training Iraqi security forces. A Pentagon spokesman said Saturday that no final decision has been reached about the U.S. training relationship with the Iraqi government.
The decision ends months of hand-wringing by U.S. officials over whether to stick to a Dec. 31 withdrawal deadline that was set in 2008 or negotiate a new security agreement to ensure that gains made and more than 4,400 American military lives lost since March 2003 do not go to waste.
In recent months, Washington has been discussing with Iraqi leaders the possibility of several thousand American troops remaining to continue training Iraqi security forces. A Pentagon spokesman said Saturday that no final decision has been reached about the U.S. training relationship with the Iraqi government.
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Sirota: Warren not interested in ‘Hillary Clinton model’ of sitting down and shutting up \ [View all]
kpete
Feb 2013
OP
it's actually been a long tradition across the political spectrum to be quiet for the first year.
unblock
Feb 2013
#2
I'm not sure she's refused all interviews but she's certainly not grandstanding.
winter is coming
Feb 2013
#46
This is my beef with those who say Hillary was a great senator - she NEVER DID ANYTHING
blm
Feb 2013
#3
The republicans demonised Mrs. Clinton so much, thats why Obama rose to the top in primary.
Sunlei
Feb 2013
#12
Actually, the agreement to leave Iraq was made before Obama became President
progressoid
Feb 2013
#104
yes, and so was the giant economic crash and the bank 'bailout' all started known by bush.
Sunlei
Feb 2013
#113
She wasn't snowed - she knew what Bill knew and he had access to classified docs that NO other
blm
Feb 2013
#24
Yes, it is factual. He did say he didn't know how he would have voted on the IWR. Here:
Skip Intro
Feb 2013
#83
Wow. I mentioned he said something, and proved he said it. I'm not doing anything here
Skip Intro
Feb 2013
#85
Actually she did. She actively sold out her constituents to the cause of globalization,
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#92
In other words, you can't find any issue where Hillary led Dem opposition to Bush, either.
blm
Feb 2013
#114
I've researched plenty and paid close attention to DC since the late 80s. You KNOW you can't
blm
Feb 2013
#123
"I Feel Hillary's a Bit Too Aligned with Walmart, maybe in their pocket.....cont.
wolfie001
Feb 2013
#11
Wish people would have done that 15 years ago before walmart killed all the local small businesses
Sunlei
Feb 2013
#90
Well, I may have been boycotting them for longer than 15 years, but certainly at least that.
Gorp
Feb 2013
#115
BS, it is a fact walmart is Americas number1 employer and #1 gun seller in America.
Sunlei
Feb 2013
#35
Please edit the sexist term in your post. Welcome to DU--I note that you are using a sexist term
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#75
it's called comparing and contrasting, don't see any "woman" issue in the OP as written nt
msongs
Feb 2013
#23
Then please recall for us the many important issues she led opposition to Bush in senate.
blm
Feb 2013
#26
How about outsourcing of jobs and increasing h1-b visas--selling out US workers?
antigop
Feb 2013
#47
Yes, exactly--he's an asshole. A stealth sexist! No doubt, no question, and no argument from me!
MADem
Feb 2013
#60
The anti-Hillary, pro-Warren in 2016 folks will say anything to attack Hillary. This is only the
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#73
Don't remind the purists the Warren was a Republican while Bill Clinton was in the WH.
MADem
Feb 2013
#79
Why not ask who I'd run who visited Pluto in a rocket powered by aardvark sweat?
MannyGoldstein
Feb 2013
#96
I'm just giving you an opportunity not to post superficially for a change.
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#100
Well said, I like Elizabeth Warren, and I think she might be a good Pres candidate one day.
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#117
You're right. It reminds me of sports comparisons which are almost always racist
Cali_Democrat
Feb 2013
#72
Congress is full of lawyers from Harvard and Yale. Clinton was 1 among many in that regard
Larkspur
Feb 2013
#53
You surely are NOT that obtuse. The only reason EW is the senior senator from MY state
MADem
Feb 2013
#64
Unfortunately, she didn't shut up when voting for, and backing, Bush's wars.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2013
#48
This alt-media writer Sirota got it all backwards. the comparison is a lie.
graham4anything
Feb 2013
#55
Schumer, the Senator from Wall Street? I'm sure that it just tore Clinton up to
MannyGoldstein
Feb 2013
#97
Actually she interrupted Sen. Byrd's anti-war speech in order to lay out the blueprint
JTFrog
Feb 2013
#116
Kerry was vilified since early 70s and still exposed IranContra, BCCI and S&Ls his first term
blm
Feb 2013
#120
Rushbo hates Hillary, Warren, Michelle and Fluke. Sometimes we learn more from enemies.
freshwest
Feb 2013
#86
I wish Sirota had not chosen to make a sexist comparison between Warren and Clinton.
spooky3
Feb 2013
#99