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graham4anything

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3. See that, one learns something new in a second, never knew she was a Republican.
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 06:04 AM
Feb 2013

Didn't know she was a republican. Never felt a need to delve into her past as it was irrelevant to anything. I have a sneaky suspicion 99% of her mega fans did not know this either.

Now, That is not a deal breaker to me,as I am a big Charlie Crist fan, but it is why any candidate UNVETTED is a big no no in these days (especially after Paul Tsongas and John Edwards).

The story about Ed Markey yesterday brought the truth home.
Here is someone one would think everyone in the nation would know.
Yet in his own Mass. he is unknown to a wide section of his own state.

Most people are unknown nationwide. Except for political junkies, and historians, who really knows people hundreds/thousands miles away.

Elizabeth Warren is on the same team as Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
I don't know why a small subsection of the democratic party thinks otherwise.

I fully expect Hillary and Elizabeth working side by side for her 8 year term.
And as said in the OP, I fully expect, that with Hillary running, no other woman, including Elizabeth Warren would even think of running against her.

And to her megafans-(now I like her, but am not a megafan like they are)-I still would love to know why they want her to give up the perfect job she is in to spend 3 years running for president.
She can't do what she is doing as President. It is why President Obama can't do what her mega fans hope she can accomplish as President. It takes a Senator to do that. Not a President.

I am hoping all the other candidates don't even start a campaign, and the party emerges as one very early, very quickly and let the other side have their civil war.

And to remind people, I was avidly against Hillary in 2008.
She EARNED my respect and vote in the 4 years since then.

But I do wish those megafans of any candidate do some homework.
Hillary has 100% of all her dirt out there, the public already knows it, fully vetted.
However, NONE of the other candidates has ever been vetted whatsoever.

(just look at what people did not know about Andrew Cuomo that they only found out
after Mayor Ed Koch died.) That would be used 100 times over were Andrew to run.
(and he won't run against Hillary, none of them will).

I wouldn't mind Joe running just to take the air away from others, and being the 1st term VP for Hillary to set double history.

BTW, Elizabeth Warren's megafans also keep mentioning some other person for her VP.
Now, it took me 3 seconds to find 3 things about him that ironically enough, if they knew that, one would think would instantly disqualify that person from someone they would want on a national ticket.

Vetting. It should be done and those things then weighted to see if those things make a national run impossible.

imho

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It's not very tough to run. It's tough to win. I hope she, at the very least, makes a run. w4rma Feb 2013 #1
You're right. It's tough to compete as a serious candidate. cali Feb 2013 #2
Who will do her job while she spends 3 years running? graham4anything Feb 2013 #6
the remark about Gore is a load of crap dsc Feb 2013 #66
See that, one learns something new in a second, never knew she was a Republican. graham4anything Feb 2013 #3
I don't hold her voting for Ronald Reagan and George HW Bush against her. Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #4
I'm one of those that is incredulous that any compassionate, sane person cali Feb 2013 #7
Yes! Then after 8 years of that nightmare voted for senior. n/t retread Feb 2013 #21
Well, Reagan did get more than 40 million votes in the 1980 election. OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #39
Good analysis. Her time will come. 2016 just isn't it. nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #5
Personally speaking, I feel all this talk of Warren is premature... FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #8
IWR? UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 #9
Iraqi War Resolution. Or as my Senator referred to it, a blank check cali Feb 2013 #10
OK. UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 #13
Why Elizabeth instead of Hilary? jerseyjack Feb 2013 #11
well, Warren wasn't in office at the time and as far as I know there are cali Feb 2013 #14
One of them can win against Chris Christie and the other will... Walk away Feb 2013 #27
Hillary was also very hawkish towards Iran as well... cascadiance Feb 2013 #50
I think supporting Hagel in spite of his war vote makes snarking at Hillary for the same thing Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #12
I don't. He's not running for President. He's appointed, not elected. cali Feb 2013 #15
Not Voting For Anyone Who Voted For Ware Against Iraq JGug1 Feb 2013 #16
We sure as fuck did know. Go read Leahy's pre-vote speech cali Feb 2013 #18
Here is Leahy's speech ProSense Feb 2013 #25
That's about as selective as you could get. cali Feb 2013 #36
It really doesn't ProSense Feb 2013 #41
Yeah! When Saddam Hussein attacked the World Trade Center George Bush put retread Feb 2013 #22
She doesn't have the backing of the party powers n2doc Feb 2013 #17
**this** +10,000 zazen Feb 2013 #23
What it will take, is money and time n2doc Feb 2013 #24
True. Lost in all the left-leaning celebration about the end of the Republican Party is ... Ian_rd Feb 2013 #19
People should be concentrating on 2014. treestar Feb 2013 #20
^^^ THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS ^^^ WilliamPitt Feb 2013 #28
I could care less about 2016 right now. Jennicut Feb 2013 #31
Exactly! treestar Feb 2013 #35
2014 gubernatorial/statehouses/senate/house are the MOST important elections in a LONG time SoCalDem Feb 2013 #40
Red presidential states have red governors treestar Feb 2013 #54
and it's serious;ly about those states' statehouses too.. a one vote majority SoCalDem Feb 2013 #56
Nailed It!!!!!! Tarheel_Dem Feb 2013 #52
Hi TD! treestar Feb 2013 #55
Hey tree! Tarheel_Dem Feb 2013 #64
She's older and doesn't have his charisma. Arkana Feb 2013 #26
Let's see how she does. I'm worried she'll turn out to be a Dean Recursion Feb 2013 #29
As I said before I agree I don't think Warren will run davidpdx Feb 2013 #30
It's a tough prospect for one reason only. woo me with science Feb 2013 #32
I would rather see Sen. Warren be Treasury Secretary in Hillary's cabinet. PADemD Feb 2013 #33
WOW. That sounds like music to my ears! CTyankee Feb 2013 #44
After 8yrs of Bush's policies destroying the country's economy ANY Dem nominee was winning 2008 blm Feb 2013 #34
It's because Warren would be *opposed* by Wall Street... Romulox Feb 2013 #37
but wouldn't that be true of most liberal candidates anyway? N/t. OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #45
Yes. That's the point of contrast I was attempting to make. nt Romulox Feb 2013 #46
If she runs she has my vote in the primary. Motown_Johnny Feb 2013 #38
Call me selfish, but I'd like to keep her as my senator for as long as possible. graywarrior Feb 2013 #42
I don't want to be a stick in the mud, but can't we see how this thing is going to play out, just CTyankee Feb 2013 #43
God love her, she's not a good candidate maxsolomon Feb 2013 #47
Abraham Lincoln served only one 2 year term in the House. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #48
No. He served 4 terms in the State Legislature cali Feb 2013 #53
Hopefully, her "inexperience" has kept her from learning to triangulate. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #57
I doubt it. Didn't she say during her campaign that cali Feb 2013 #59
Thanks for the info. My already nebulous support for her dropped a couple notches. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #60
I would like to see her as Senate Majority leader at least. /nt Ash_F Feb 2013 #49
people were already talking about obama being president someday before he was even a senator unblock Feb 2013 #51
Obama's lack of history in the Senate was a plus. No embarrassing votes. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #58
She's not a great Senator yet. I hope she will be, but no one who has cali Feb 2013 #61
Yes, she is and can. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #62
uh, what??? "Everyone's starting grade is an A" cali Feb 2013 #63
I love Elizabeth Warren... but Barack Obama was/is a POWERHOUSE of charisma. phleshdef Feb 2013 #65
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