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ProSense

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25. Here is Leahy's speech
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:00 AM
Feb 2013
Mr. President, there is no dispute that Saddam Hussein is a menace to his people and to Iraq's neighbors. He is a tyrant who the world would be far better without.

Saddam Hussein has also made no secret of his hatred of the United States, and should he acquire a nuclear weapon and the means to deliver it, he would pose a grave threat to the lives of all Americans, as well as to our closest allies.

The question is not whether Saddam Hussein should be disarmed; it is how imminent is this threat and how should we deal with it? Do we go it alone, as some in the Administration are eager to do because they see Iraq as their first opportunity to apply the President's strategy of preemptive military force?

Do we do that, potentially jeopardizing the support of those nations we need to combat terrorism and further antagonizing Muslim populations who already deeply resent our policies in the Middle East?


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Despite disagreements on our policy toward Iraq, there is no question that if a decision is made to send troops into battle every Member of Congress will unite behind the President and our armed forces.

But that time has not come, and based on what I know today, I believe that in order to solve this problem without potentially creating more terrorists, and more enemies, we must act deliberately, not precipitously. The way the United States responds to the threat posed by Iraq will have consequences for our country and the world for years to come.

Authorizing a United States attack to overthrow another government, while negotiations at the United Nations are ongoing, and before exhausting other options, could damage our standing in the world as a country that recognizes the importance of international solutions to global problems and that respects international law. It would be, I am afraid, what the world has come to expect of a super power that seems increasingly disdainful of world opinion, or cooperation and collective diplomacy.

What a dramatic shift from just one year ago, when the world was united in its expressions of sympathy toward the United States and would have welcomed the opportunity to work with us on a wide agenda of common problems.

I remember the Star-Spangled Banner being played and sung by crowds of people outside Buckingham Palace. The leading French newspaper, Le Monde, declared "We are all Americans." And, China's President Jiang Zemin was one of the first world leaders to call Washington and express his sympathies.

Why squander this goodwill and this unity? Why not build on it?

If September 11th taught us anything, it is that protecting our security involves much more than military might. It involves cooperation with other nations to break up terrorist rings, dry up the sources of funding, and address the conditions of ignorance and despair that create breeding grounds for terrorists. We are far more likely to achieve these goals by working with the rest of the world, than by going it alone.

I am optimistic that the Administration's efforts at the UN will succeed and that the Security Council will adopt a strong resolution. If Saddam Hussein refuses to comply, then force may be justified and it may be required. But we are a great nation, with a wide range of resources available to us and with the goodwill of most of the world.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0210/S00095.htm


Like I said, every Senator bought the WMD lie based on the bogus intelligence.

Iraq: Bush lied
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022389965

Hubris: Selling the Iraq War - The Rumsfeld memos
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022394769


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It's not very tough to run. It's tough to win. I hope she, at the very least, makes a run. w4rma Feb 2013 #1
You're right. It's tough to compete as a serious candidate. cali Feb 2013 #2
Who will do her job while she spends 3 years running? graham4anything Feb 2013 #6
the remark about Gore is a load of crap dsc Feb 2013 #66
See that, one learns something new in a second, never knew she was a Republican. graham4anything Feb 2013 #3
I don't hold her voting for Ronald Reagan and George HW Bush against her. Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #4
I'm one of those that is incredulous that any compassionate, sane person cali Feb 2013 #7
Yes! Then after 8 years of that nightmare voted for senior. n/t retread Feb 2013 #21
Well, Reagan did get more than 40 million votes in the 1980 election. OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #39
Good analysis. Her time will come. 2016 just isn't it. nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #5
Personally speaking, I feel all this talk of Warren is premature... FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #8
IWR? UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 #9
Iraqi War Resolution. Or as my Senator referred to it, a blank check cali Feb 2013 #10
OK. UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 #13
Why Elizabeth instead of Hilary? jerseyjack Feb 2013 #11
well, Warren wasn't in office at the time and as far as I know there are cali Feb 2013 #14
One of them can win against Chris Christie and the other will... Walk away Feb 2013 #27
Hillary was also very hawkish towards Iran as well... cascadiance Feb 2013 #50
I think supporting Hagel in spite of his war vote makes snarking at Hillary for the same thing Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #12
I don't. He's not running for President. He's appointed, not elected. cali Feb 2013 #15
Not Voting For Anyone Who Voted For Ware Against Iraq JGug1 Feb 2013 #16
We sure as fuck did know. Go read Leahy's pre-vote speech cali Feb 2013 #18
Here is Leahy's speech ProSense Feb 2013 #25
That's about as selective as you could get. cali Feb 2013 #36
It really doesn't ProSense Feb 2013 #41
Yeah! When Saddam Hussein attacked the World Trade Center George Bush put retread Feb 2013 #22
She doesn't have the backing of the party powers n2doc Feb 2013 #17
**this** +10,000 zazen Feb 2013 #23
What it will take, is money and time n2doc Feb 2013 #24
True. Lost in all the left-leaning celebration about the end of the Republican Party is ... Ian_rd Feb 2013 #19
People should be concentrating on 2014. treestar Feb 2013 #20
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I could care less about 2016 right now. Jennicut Feb 2013 #31
Exactly! treestar Feb 2013 #35
2014 gubernatorial/statehouses/senate/house are the MOST important elections in a LONG time SoCalDem Feb 2013 #40
Red presidential states have red governors treestar Feb 2013 #54
and it's serious;ly about those states' statehouses too.. a one vote majority SoCalDem Feb 2013 #56
Nailed It!!!!!! Tarheel_Dem Feb 2013 #52
Hi TD! treestar Feb 2013 #55
Hey tree! Tarheel_Dem Feb 2013 #64
She's older and doesn't have his charisma. Arkana Feb 2013 #26
Let's see how she does. I'm worried she'll turn out to be a Dean Recursion Feb 2013 #29
As I said before I agree I don't think Warren will run davidpdx Feb 2013 #30
It's a tough prospect for one reason only. woo me with science Feb 2013 #32
I would rather see Sen. Warren be Treasury Secretary in Hillary's cabinet. PADemD Feb 2013 #33
WOW. That sounds like music to my ears! CTyankee Feb 2013 #44
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It's because Warren would be *opposed* by Wall Street... Romulox Feb 2013 #37
but wouldn't that be true of most liberal candidates anyway? N/t. OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #45
Yes. That's the point of contrast I was attempting to make. nt Romulox Feb 2013 #46
If she runs she has my vote in the primary. Motown_Johnny Feb 2013 #38
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I don't want to be a stick in the mud, but can't we see how this thing is going to play out, just CTyankee Feb 2013 #43
God love her, she's not a good candidate maxsolomon Feb 2013 #47
Abraham Lincoln served only one 2 year term in the House. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #48
No. He served 4 terms in the State Legislature cali Feb 2013 #53
Hopefully, her "inexperience" has kept her from learning to triangulate. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #57
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Thanks for the info. My already nebulous support for her dropped a couple notches. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #60
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Obama's lack of history in the Senate was a plus. No embarrassing votes. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #58
She's not a great Senator yet. I hope she will be, but no one who has cali Feb 2013 #61
Yes, she is and can. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #62
uh, what??? "Everyone's starting grade is an A" cali Feb 2013 #63
I love Elizabeth Warren... but Barack Obama was/is a POWERHOUSE of charisma. phleshdef Feb 2013 #65
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