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cascadiance

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43. He was not a "commited corporatist" like Hillary already showed herself to be...

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 04:03 PM

Feb 2013

Without John Edwards in the mix at the end, Obama to the progressive voter was still an opportunity to have more progressive values as an "unknown" that people had "hope" for that was a better option for many than someone that they knew wasn't going to be supporting their progressive values like Hillary was then. I often wonder if Edwards wasn't drawing the progressive votes then, if Dennis Kucinich might have been more of a factor in the end.

Progressive voters weren't necessarily "blindly loyal", but were looking for the best option that they had that could still win at the end.

Actually, I still voted for Edwards in the primary in California even after he'd just pulled out then, much like I'd voted for Dean in the previous election as well who similarly got "pushed out" early on.

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Hillary 2016: the good, bad and ugly [View all] DonCoquixote Feb 2013 OP

lettuce pray a progressive and/or liberal runs nt msongs Feb 2013 #1

In comparison to Hillary nearly anyone is a progressive and quite liberal 1-Old-Man Feb 2013 #2

I hate all the things she did while she was President. DURHAM D Feb 2013 #3

Come now DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #4

more drivel DURHAM D Feb 2013 #6

more derp.. frylock Feb 2013 #41

the brutal sanctions against Iraq during Bill's years was not kind to women and children either. Whisp Feb 2013 #9

I was going to respond to someone DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #25

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi kids died from dysentery AtomicKitten Feb 2013 #34

They have no reason to apologize to you or tell you they are sorry. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #5

The policies Bill and Hillary supported in the 90s have devastated this country. Her support for war Romulox Feb 2013 #8

I don't agree with you. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #10

I fail to see what you are disagreeing with. You agree she has hurt the country, you agree Romulox Feb 2013 #14

I don't agree that they have devastated the country. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #17

If you're arguing that Americans are better off today than the late 90s, take it up with reality. Romulox Feb 2013 #20

Don't know where you got that from in my response. It just isn't there. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #22

what if a Repuglican President resided over those years? Whisp Feb 2013 #23

Nope. Not any more than I would give credit to a Meth head for a sudden burst of energy... Romulox Feb 2013 #26

"We may be through with the past, but the past ain't through with us.'' Whisp Feb 2013 #19

Wow. Powerful line. Romulox Feb 2013 #21

it's a strange one. very dark and odd Whisp Feb 2013 #36

just as she is not entitled to our vote.. frylock Feb 2013 #42

If you read my posts in this thread... NCTraveler Feb 2013 #45

You should add the Commodity Futures Modernization Act to your list antigop Feb 2013 #7

The CMFA is probably worse than the repeal of Glass-Steagall. amandabeech Feb 2013 #27

Also add her support for expanding the H-1B and other insourcing indentured servant programs... cascadiance Feb 2013 #37

You've raised other troubling aspects of her record. amandabeech Feb 2013 #47

outsourcing of jobs as well antigop Feb 2013 #48

maybe she made a deal here to speak for hundreds of thousands of dollars somewhere in India. n/t Whisp Feb 2013 #49

thank you DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #28

Her votes for, and support of, Bush's wars makes her a No Sale for me. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #11

You forgot the push for weapons to Syrian rebels, the last Jennicut Feb 2013 #12

Hillary with Petraeus and the Kagans. n/t Whisp Feb 2013 #18

Hillary now repealed Glass-Steagall & enacted NAFTA?! Oh boy, it's going to be a long 4years. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #13

she does tend to take credit for popular things during Bill's terms Whisp Feb 2013 #16

No, Obama did that... joeybee12 Feb 2013 #24

The Clintons also set up the DLC, which the Koch brothers funded... cascadiance Feb 2013 #15

The same bunch are now called "No Labels." n/t amandabeech Feb 2013 #29

Ed Rendell is co-chair of "Fix The Debt" AtomicKitten Feb 2013 #40

So, what has Obama done about the three things on your list? Maven Feb 2013 #30

sadly, none DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #32

Correction, he always has been clinton, the sequel. It was the biggest hoot of the '08 primaries. Maven Feb 2013 #35

He was not a "commited corporatist" like Hillary already showed herself to be... cascadiance Feb 2013 #43

Sure he was. Maven Feb 2013 #44

I think his "plans" to go after Iran were FAR LESS nebulous than Hillary's were... cascadiance Feb 2013 #46

Hillary is already booking speaking tours for high 6 figures. Whisp Feb 2013 #31

Nah DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #33

2016 will offer up 8-10 candidates in the primary & the corporate media will CrispyQ Feb 2013 #38

And those that espouse liberal views should really have their backgrounds checked too... cascadiance Feb 2013 #39