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281. I wore long sleeves and pants in South Florida

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Fri Feb 22, 2013, 04:28 PM

Feb 2013

The first year I lived in Florida, I had blisters all over me and even on my eyelids. I worked in a public school with little children and I didn't want anyway questioning me, or shunning me. I went to doctors, including dermatologists, who ruled out Lupus, Psoriasis, allergies, etc. They called it "contact dermatitis". From my experience in NY, where I only got this to a small degree ONLY in summers, I knew it was "contact" with HEAT. I got them also if I made water too hot in the shower. However, it can get very, very bad if I don't keep COOL, and soak in cool baths of sea salts. None of the meds, from steriods to cortisone, that doctors gave me helped.

I can understand what this family is experiencing. What I have also is definitely NOT contagious.

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Family Kicked Out Of Golden Corral Restaurant Over Children's Skin Disorder [View all] The Straight Story Feb 2013 OP

america, america god shed his....... spanone Feb 2013 #1

A disorder that looks like a contagious disease? lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #2

Really? Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #6

I don't think the situations are analagous. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #8

And if told the child's condition was not contagious Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #9

I don't know. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #11

The article said the mother Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #12

Yes. I read that and understand that this is what the plaintiff alleges. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #15

Ah, so you think the DOJ Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #16

Hey, this is one of our resident authoritarian liberalhistorian Feb 2013 #19

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #21

Well, I just found a post Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #25

Link please? lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #28

Still waiting. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #29

Get a grip and then get lost.... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #33

LOL, thanks! liberalhistorian Feb 2013 #135

You're most definitely welcome. :-) Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #146

Bang. trumad Feb 2013 #202

Good Morning Trumad... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #233

You could head over and vote for the hottest celeb... trumad Feb 2013 #266

LOL Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #274

here's a link where you justify that women should pay more for health insurance than men CreekDog Feb 2013 #186

Bullshit! liberalhistorian Feb 2013 #133

Hey thanks for the heads up! Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #22

You don't want your "head up" in the sense that LH does. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #26

I would say that your admission liberalhistorian Feb 2013 #136

Does that include cutting out ovaries of moms who don't pay child support???? Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2013 #289

I wouldn't know... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #290

he also thinks women should pay for more health insurance than men CreekDog Feb 2013 #182

As another resident apologist for the police treestar Feb 2013 #209

It has everything to do with it. Because liberalhistorian Feb 2013 #222

But the issue still stands, separate from him treestar Feb 2013 #223

courts judge. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #24

And if you can't trust the DOJ, who can you trust? cthulu2016 Feb 2013 #32

No one... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #35

I work with kids with all kinds of disabilities. I see your point and like you, I would ask the Squinch Feb 2013 #131

Picture will bring tears to your eyes. EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #10

Looks like chicken pox... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #13

Golden Corral doesn't have waiters. grantcart Feb 2013 #36

But that's exactly what the ADA is all about: marybourg Feb 2013 #71

Someone from the restaurant should have gotten the children their food. KamaAina Feb 2013 #93

the report doesn't indicate whether or not that option or the option of the parents getting the food grantcart Feb 2013 #102

Some people would argue.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #144

It was extremely easy for Chipotle to lower the counters KamaAina Feb 2013 #145

The "proper height" might change.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #221

As it happens, many little people do use wheelchairs KamaAina Feb 2013 #256

Do you have a cite for that case? thucythucy Feb 2013 #230

Here you go ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #234

Thanks! thucythucy Feb 2013 #240

After seeing this, I don't blame the owner LittleBlue Feb 2013 #134

The ADA was specifically written thucythucy Feb 2013 #150

I don't think that is reasonable LittleBlue Feb 2013 #157

This "we" thucythucy Feb 2013 #176

You don't have an argument anymore Shivering Jemmy Feb 2013 #208

I agree with you 110%thucythucy undergroundpanther Feb 2013 #188

Thank you. treestar Feb 2013 #210

Thanks thucythucy! Scruffy Rumbler Feb 2013 #257

you don't even know the law that protects the disabled CreekDog Feb 2013 #163

I feel bad for the little guy davidpdx Feb 2013 #177

Poor little guy treestar Feb 2013 #207

It looks like a condition that IS acutely contagious Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #34

It looks like chicken pox in the picture... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #45

Impetigo is what it looks like. Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #49

And you see no other alternative? Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #54

I think the mother should get a medical statement from a doctor Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #61

One hopes she will. Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #64

Well, depending on what happened Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #68

I don't blame him for asking. I blame him Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #69

Because every kid I've known with it has been tossed from school, daycare etc. Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #77

But the article doesn't say when Robinson made that assertion. Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #81

so now people who look like they may have a contagious disease need to carry papers? liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #82

Agree KatyMan Feb 2013 #125

IMO it was not intended that way treestar Feb 2013 #212

Right. The kids had the right to be there. n/t Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #248

yes, the disabled should carry papers, right, why isn't your post hidden? CreekDog Feb 2013 #174

No, the disabled do not need papers Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #250

"This shouldn't be a disability" --who do you think you are? CreekDog Feb 2013 #258

I meant that our society should see that prejudice doesn't turn it into one Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #260

Well, hey, why don't people liberalhistorian Feb 2013 #246

That is very wrong... Javaman Feb 2013 #275

I know the condition the kids had isn't contagious Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #284

Anything with some open sores could be contagious. pnwmom Feb 2013 #52

No, it's not contagious.. Javaman Feb 2013 #276

You obviously didn't bother to read my actual post, pnwmom Feb 2013 #286

Like maybe impetigo Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #30

I had impetigo as a kid .... oldhippie Feb 2013 #41

My younger brother had one tiny lesion Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #46

I'd be much more inclined to listen to a doctor about a disorder that looks like a contagious diseas LanternWaste Feb 2013 #50

It's very simple Canuckistanian Feb 2013 #53

"How was I to know she had Typhoid?" lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #63

The case you're citing thucythucy Feb 2013 #83

you can't expect that poster to know anything about laws protecting the disabled can you? CreekDog Feb 2013 #164

Please do tell us what a contagious disease "looks like". kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #84

As far as I know, cranial-rectal inversion disorder isn't contagious. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #103

And if you are worried about it, then you DON'T TOUCH that child. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #175

+1 nt Javaman Feb 2013 #277

My sister and niece have this genetic disease. They are in pain every day from it. No, it is not Scruffy Rumbler Feb 2013 #138

My cousin's children has this southern_belle Feb 2013 #153

Hi southern_belle, Scruffy Rumbler Feb 2013 #172

Thank you southern_belle Feb 2013 #220

who cares what you think? it's the law CreekDog Feb 2013 #151

well you are also failing to advocate for the disabled CreekDog Feb 2013 #161

Once they had been assured that the kids weren't contagious Warpy Feb 2013 #3

And if the mother lied, and other diners were infected with impetigo? X_Digger Feb 2013 #44

Yes, the manager would be blameless jeff47 Feb 2013 #75

But who has the deeper pockets customerserviceguy Feb 2013 #100

If the restaurant owner decides to settle, they'd be paying jeff47 Feb 2013 #127

Riiiight. Any personal injury attorney would wipe the floor with him. X_Digger Feb 2013 #106

Based on what? jeff47 Feb 2013 #129

Proximate cause + reasonable person test X_Digger Feb 2013 #140

You'll notice that your quote from the ADA says thucythucy Feb 2013 #148

Reasonableness was re liability, not the ADA. X_Digger Feb 2013 #155

Didja notice the major hole in your statement? jeff47 Feb 2013 #156

Again, you think that the mother's statement has legal weight. X_Digger Feb 2013 #160

Can you sue someone for refusing to disobey federal law? thucythucy Feb 2013 #168

Negligence / liability cases are civil cases.. X_Digger Feb 2013 #228

Sorry, but in my opinion a judge thucythucy Feb 2013 #236

That would be for the defense to argue. X_Digger Feb 2013 #241

Well, at this point this is all thucythucy Feb 2013 #242

Yup, so much angels-on-heads-of-pins (for the hypothetical we were discussing). X_Digger Feb 2013 #245

Continuing the hypothetical kudzu22 Feb 2013 #251

Your argument is the reason he can ask. jeff47 Feb 2013 #159

If I handed you a gun and said, "It isn't loaded." and you point it at a bystander.. X_Digger Feb 2013 #162

Even if I was comfortable comparing kids with disabilities to loaded weapons, thucythucy Feb 2013 #226

It was a stretch, yes. I struggled to find an analogous situation.. X_Digger Feb 2013 #232

Because it is reasonable for me to check if the gun is loaded myself. jeff47 Feb 2013 #271

No, because it's not reasonable to point a gun at someone and pull the trigger, regardless.. X_Digger Feb 2013 #273

Again, the manager isn't in any position to doubt her story. jeff47 Feb 2013 #282

He has no qualifications to disprove *or* corroborate her statement. X_Digger Feb 2013 #283

There isn't a basis to kick them out. Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #253

there's this thing called the law against discrimination CreekDog Feb 2013 #165

I've read it, all of it, thanks. n/t X_Digger Feb 2013 #235

I Googled what this looks like and have to say, for a manager of a buffet-style restaurant . . . Journeyman Feb 2013 #4

I agree. The manager was stuck between a rock and a hard place. n/t pnwmom Feb 2013 #55

Possibly by doing just what you did; googling marybourg Feb 2013 #72

Not to put too fine a point to it, but . . . Journeyman Feb 2013 #85

Nonsense. Union Scribe Feb 2013 #190

Exactly. people coughing, sneezing openly and doing whatever else are for more contagious than a Javaman Feb 2013 #278

I'm sorry. I have all the sympathy SouthernDonkey Feb 2013 #5

If there were any chance of this sort of thing being a public health threat in a kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #95

+1. And don't forget diabetics who test on their fingers Union Scribe Feb 2013 #169

This whole thread is really unbelievable. nt laundry_queen Feb 2013 #227

It truly is. Javaman Feb 2013 #279

Or people with cold sores, or even sunburn obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #191

Please! Get real! SouthernDonkey Feb 2013 #291

That's truly unfortunate. MineralMan Feb 2013 #7

Parents could have alleviated the situation by contacting the manager SoCalDem Feb 2013 #14

Carrying documentation would help jberryhill Feb 2013 #59

Who would file the lawsuit? thucythucy Feb 2013 #86

In your hypothetical, the reataurant could be held liable jberryhill Feb 2013 #147

Perhaps in my hypothetical, but the more I think about this case thucythucy Feb 2013 #149

ah, recommending people violate the ADA CreekDog Feb 2013 #183

I am certainly familiar with that law jberryhill Feb 2013 #204

well the disability was explained to the person who made the decision CreekDog Feb 2013 #269

It's going to unfold the way most lawsuits do jberryhill Feb 2013 #206

Who else should carry papers -- AIDS patients? Albinos? obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #192

When you have a condition easily mistaken for something else? jberryhill Feb 2013 #205

So if you "look sick", your papers, please? Occulus Feb 2013 #259

'Reserving the right to refuse anyone" doesn't allow them to discriminate Gormy Cuss Feb 2013 #67

Thank you -- it amazes me that people think that's allowed obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #193

you had to type a lot because it takes more words to explain BS CreekDog Feb 2013 #185

Well, would the manager have thrown out someone who sneezed? jeff47 Feb 2013 #17

Most likely not. I've never seen that happen. MineralMan Feb 2013 #18

So why is it ok to toss these kids out? jeff47 Feb 2013 #20

Where did I say it was OK? MineralMan Feb 2013 #39

Back up in post #7 jeff47 Feb 2013 #70

Are you being serious? cthulu2016 Feb 2013 #40

Your complains would be the reason to ASK what's going on. Not throw them out. jeff47 Feb 2013 #73

A sneeze is much less likely to result in a serious infection pnwmom Feb 2013 #58

Because the manager knows the health status of all customers in the restaurant? jeff47 Feb 2013 #74

A sneeze is usually a one-off. No customer who arrives later will even notice. pnwmom Feb 2013 #76

Not when someone is suffering from a cold jeff47 Feb 2013 #79

�Anyone with such a defiling disease must wear torn clothes Union Scribe Feb 2013 #173

How about coughing people? Union Scribe Feb 2013 #170

Except for all the people who walk through the droplets in the air, get influenza and then uppityperson Feb 2013 #247

I agree kudzu22 Feb 2013 #252

I would have compromised here... cthulu2016 Feb 2013 #23

Ah! Finally a post worthy of a toast! Vinnie From Indy Feb 2013 #31

Which is discrimation obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #194

Some compromise could have been worked out. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #27

Yes, he is. KatyMan Feb 2013 #38

purity trolling or are you serious? cthulu2016 Feb 2013 #43

I assume that the cook KatyMan Feb 2013 #48

Yes, s/he legally is obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #195

Nice to see such compassion here KatyMan Feb 2013 #37

How do you know that manager wasn't concerned about the spread of disease? pnwmom Feb 2013 #57

He wasn't worried about spreading germs KatyMan Feb 2013 #87

Other restaurant patrons won't know this. pnwmom Feb 2013 #126

what does it matter KatyMan Feb 2013 #128

It matters to the restaurant if other customers leave. n/t pnwmom Feb 2013 #137

Too bad obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #197

That doesn't matter obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #196

Hi Katyman, Scruffy Rumbler Feb 2013 #142

people often feel justified in their prejudices. does not mean they are justifiable. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #92

well said and many times KatyMan Feb 2013 #94

I'm sure you're quite right about that. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #99

my sentiments exactly liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #89

Sounds like lots of DUers would have me thrown out of places too Union Scribe Feb 2013 #167

I actually thought of psoriasis or eczema obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #198

sadly you are probably correct liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #216

It sound like a lot of DUers don't believe anyone makes honest mistakes jberryhill Feb 2013 #218

You win the thread. ElboRuum Feb 2013 #287

And, hypothetically, if the mom was lying about her children's condition... sadbear Feb 2013 #42

The law doesn't work that way obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #199

You think lawyers give a shit about the law? sadbear Feb 2013 #219

This concept of the mother lying about it treestar Feb 2013 #213

The restaurant was most likely trying to err on the side of caution. OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #47

I'm sure SOMEBODY must have been able to use Wikipedia on their smartphone. n/t Ian David Feb 2013 #51

And when other customers quietly walked out after seeing them -- just to be on the pnwmom Feb 2013 #56

Sorry, but this same argument was used thucythucy Feb 2013 #91

It was used against AIDS patients obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #200

Because chain restaurant managers are trained in wiki telemedicine jberryhill Feb 2013 #60

Did you just say Wikipedia? sadbear Feb 2013 #62

I think so too, but I think a doctor's letter that the mother could take with her could solve that Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #65

And that would be a reason to ask. jeff47 Feb 2013 #78

You've apparently never been to the Golden Corral in my area. sadbear Feb 2013 #80

Great post! thucythucy Feb 2013 #178

I personally know a family with this condition. Butterbean Feb 2013 #66

fear of the unknown plain and simple. The problem with that is that it leads to prejudice and liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #88

There is no right and wrong here. Unfortunately the many over the few wins in this situation. The Pisces Feb 2013 #90

in this case there is a right and wrong KatyMan Feb 2013 #96

The manager is just suppose to take her word for it and not believe his lying eyes? You are faced Pisces Feb 2013 #139

Yes, he legally is obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #201

This is for all those who cite the manager having to worry thucythucy Feb 2013 #97

I don't think that business considerations are the issue for anyone discussing the point here. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #104

A resonable person KatyMan Feb 2013 #109

Several people have posted expressing thucythucy Feb 2013 #120

Agree! :) KatyMan Feb 2013 #122

my husband is legally blind. You would not believe how many employees are not educated on ADA. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #224

You may have already thought of this thucythucy Feb 2013 #249

oh, he has the contact information of the building manager liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #263

girls were kicked out CreekDog Feb 2013 #171

Thank you so much KatyMan Feb 2013 #105

I don't think it is okay to make excuses for this Restaurant. The children suffering this condition Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #98

I think the suit is a poor use of federal Justice Department resources. slackmaster Feb 2013 #101

what else could the family have done? KatyMan Feb 2013 #107

They could have cleared it in advance with the manager, or... slackmaster Feb 2013 #108

You are wrong on many levels KatyMan Feb 2013 #110

I think it's unreasonable for the family to expect every business manager to have knowledge... slackmaster Feb 2013 #112

are you missing the part about the mother educating the manager? KatyMan Feb 2013 #113

Why should the manager be expected take the word of a stranger? slackmaster Feb 2013 #115

Because he asked her KatyMan Feb 2013 #117

OK, you've wandered into Straw Man territory. slackmaster Feb 2013 #118

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I do think it's unreasonable Butterbean Feb 2013 #123

Sorry, slackmaster, but since 1990 thucythucy Feb 2013 #130

"the restaurant management does have the right to refuse to seat or serve anyone for any reason. " KatyMan Feb 2013 #111

See reply #112. Racial minorities are specifically protected groups under federal law. slackmaster Feb 2013 #114

Read the American for Disabilities Act KatyMan Feb 2013 #116

Only to the extent that the restaurant manager could be reasonably expected to know that. slackmaster Feb 2013 #119

Do you not think KatyMan Feb 2013 #121

I'm open to the possibility that the manager may have feared that the child had Hansen's Disease... slackmaster Feb 2013 #124

A child running around with untreated and contagious thucythucy Feb 2013 #132

Some parents have been known to misrepresent their children's illnesses REP Feb 2013 #141

In a case like that you should call thucythucy Feb 2013 #152

And those around her and them. REP Feb 2013 #158

I'm going to go out on a limb here... TeeYiYi Feb 2013 #143

I agree. eom Purveyor Feb 2013 #154

Yeah, better keep him inside locked away from the normals. Union Scribe Feb 2013 #166

i think he is adorable JI7 Feb 2013 #180

+1 treestar Feb 2013 #214

When my kids had chicken pox laundry_queen Feb 2013 #238

I agree treestar Feb 2013 #239

Look at that smile. You are right. He is adorable. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #225

I agree. Apophis Feb 2013 #187

thanks Dr. Frist CreekDog Feb 2013 #189

The manager's position was understandable. Quantess Feb 2013 #203

Many DUers lack the ability to recognize simple misunderstandings jberryhill Feb 2013 #217

yes those of us who know someone with a disability get tired of seeing them discriminated against liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #229

I don't know anyone with a disability, is that what you are saying? jberryhill Feb 2013 #268

yes, the manager was informed of the condition and kicked the kids out for other customers' comfort CreekDog Feb 2013 #270

Well I'll tell you something from personal experience jberryhill Feb 2013 #272

This message was self-deleted by its author thucythucy Feb 2013 #288

I am with the manager - people lie - I had to touch someone and asked about their scabs 2Design Feb 2013 #179

Golden Corral is for fat rethug rednecks mwrguy Feb 2013 #181

Well, if that's the case.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #244

What the fuck is wrong with people? What do you want? Leper colonies to return? Humanist_Activist Feb 2013 #184

well that's a little stronger I would put it..but yes some of the attitudes here are fucking sick Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #211

I agree with you liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #215

maybe society itself has become so utterly depraved that siding with power and privilege Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #231

the ADA treaty vote failed just months ago --so your point is correct CreekDog Feb 2013 #237

just knowing someone who is disabled doesn't mean you know what they are going through liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #243

The manager shows what we know to be true about America. Rex Feb 2013 #254

So true Rex, Scruffy Rumbler Feb 2013 #262

Wow, yeah that is horrible. Rex Feb 2013 #267

Meanwhile, in restaurants across America... AndyA Feb 2013 #255

how about just minding our own business and not worrying about what other people look like liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #261

There's a big difference between dressing to impress and basic hygiene AndyA Feb 2013 #264

I just can't take the disgusting posts on this thread anymore. this is going in the trash. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #265

the lack of compassion displayed by some posters in this thread is absolutely appalling... Javaman Feb 2013 #280

I wore long sleeves and pants in South Florida HockeyMom Feb 2013 #281

Cool bath with sea salts... Javaman Feb 2013 #285