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SwissTony

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36. It's not an economic argument...

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 02:01 PM

Feb 2013

it's a personal choice and convenience argument.

If i go to a pizza place, can I bring my store bought cola? Probably not. So, i eat my pizza there, then go home and drink my cola?

Same if I ask for home delivery. If I have cola in the fridge, I don't order with my pizza. If I don't have any, it's my choice - go without cola, or pay a bit more. My choice.

Yes, I pay over the price for the drinks at the pizza place, but a nice young man or woman pours it for me. thank you, nice person. Again, my choice.

Bloomberg is well-intentioned (kudos to him) - but will it work? You state "he is saving people thousands of dollars a year in medical expenses". Got a link for that? Doesn't it only come into effect in March????? So how is he saving already?

Who the hell mentioned beer???? I see no mention of it...but if you're buying, I'll have an Amstel...a large one since it's only February.

And thanks for your wellness advice. There are some who over-indulge in fast food, but many of us don't. Many of us go to the movies often and eat lots of popcorn. Many of us don't.

But if we want to, it's our choice.

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Bloomberg's soda ban prohibits 2-liter bottles with your pizza and some nightclub mixers [View all] dkf Feb 2013 OP

I've got no problem with this. Ron Green Feb 2013 #1

what?? darkangel218 Feb 2013 #3

It's not a ration, it's a dosage limit. Ron Green Feb 2013 #5

what about those who cant afford buying several small "doses" just to make up for it? darkangel218 Feb 2013 #6

You just buy stuff for your kids that won't hurt them. Ron Green Feb 2013 #8

I dont need the officials to control my life and tell me what is good or not good for me. darkangel218 Feb 2013 #10

Oh, the outrage! I suggest you take it to the streets. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #34

You're also in favor of liquor being sold 24/7 and no drunk driving laws? Electric Monk Feb 2013 #62

Until I came to Texas I didn't know there were places you couldn't buy liquor 24/7. Still don't RB TexLa Feb 2013 #73

Yah, its a stupid law. nt darkangel218 Feb 2013 #106

I never once in my life drove drunk. Read the whole thread, it was a post made in jest. darkangel218 Feb 2013 #105

And there's this one. bike man Feb 2013 #125

Are you fine with all the extra plastic waste generated... Silent3 Feb 2013 #19

And with the extra can/bottle deposits? KamaAina Feb 2013 #72

Do the homeless get the deposits, then? daleo Feb 2013 #91

"Not a nice sight for a civilized society" KamaAina Feb 2013 #146

But there aren't any homeless in NYC KamaAina Feb 2013 #148

Can't afford the doses? Get off the drug. MH1 Feb 2013 #20

My daughter has a sucker in her mouth right now...and she's playing on her LeapPad2 snooper2 Feb 2013 #30

Or you could mind your own business SpartanDem Feb 2013 #65

including the diet drinks DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #143

Most commercial soda (including diet) is REALLY bad for you MH1 Feb 2013 #144

they did not draw a line DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #147

Yes they did sir pball Feb 2013 #149

Those who can't afford several small doses are most in need of limiting the crap they take in. KittyWampus Feb 2013 #56

Like I said to another poster mind your own business SpartanDem Feb 2013 #70

if we aren't going to handmade34 Feb 2013 #97

So where does it stop SpartanDem Feb 2013 #109

I have an idea: christx30 Feb 2013 #77

jail? seriously? dont we.... actslikeacarrot Feb 2013 #85

My post was sarcastic christx30 Feb 2013 #88

That's bullshit. It's rationing a perfectly legal product! Bake Feb 2013 #151

............ Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #13

Do you really think that's the same thing???? Ron Green Feb 2013 #15

You think drinking alcohol is better than too much pop or soda?? Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #17

I think a moderate amount of alcohol is better than a "moderate" (whatever that may be) Ron Green Feb 2013 #22

When was the last time someone caused an accident because they drank too much pop?? Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #23

No one's "coming for" things. Ron Green Feb 2013 #32

LOL Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #35

Wrong. Union Scribe Feb 2013 #115

This thread is on sodas. But I can understand NRA doesn't like him. graham4anything Feb 2013 #128

So you can reply. Bravo. Now... Union Scribe Feb 2013 #132

It's irrelevant to the NRA and this cause. graham4anything Feb 2013 #134

He will continue to use his money to destroy public education Union Scribe Feb 2013 #137

Why are you against Wellness and saving 10s of thousands in health care costs? graham4anything Feb 2013 #140

Freedom IS at risk The Straight Story Feb 2013 #114

No, it really isn't. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #141

what bad habit do you have? snooper2 Feb 2013 #28

I have a few, but I'm getting better. Ron Green Feb 2013 #39

You should get rid of a car and buy a scooter... snooper2 Feb 2013 #40

My wife and I are planning a move to a place where we can get rid of BOTH cars Ron Green Feb 2013 #50

Your car shouldn't hold more than two gallons of gas kudzu22 Feb 2013 #52

Yes, very true. former9thward Feb 2013 #93

And because you can't christx30 Feb 2013 #79

Black/white thinking much? n/t Ron Green Feb 2013 #83

Something is either christx30 Feb 2013 #103

"Yesterday, I could buy a 30-round magazine for my semiautomatic. Now, because of some busybody, Ron Green Feb 2013 #124

The difference is that christx30 Feb 2013 #153

You don't see the connection between the high-capacity magazine and the giant soda pop? Ron Green Feb 2013 #155

Because if someone christx30 Feb 2013 #156

So you have no problem with a law One of the 99 Feb 2013 #82

I have no problem with outlawing supersized portions of soda pop. Ron Green Feb 2013 #121

I got if from reality. One of the 99 Feb 2013 #142

Wth is wrong with this guy! darkangel218 Feb 2013 #2

He needs to get a REAL job... JHB Feb 2013 #60

this is the first thing Hitler did Enrique Feb 2013 #4

First they came for the 2 liters... Cirque du So-What Feb 2013 #11

Yeah well you know what? darkangel218 Feb 2013 #12

In this instance, I consider the ban on 2-liter bottles of soda to be ludicrous Cirque du So-What Feb 2013 #14

True - not rationing. enlightenment Feb 2013 #16

There is no rationing. ronnie624 Feb 2013 #49

Just make an exemption for unopened, unprepared, pre-packaged bottles from the manufacturer. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #7

Personally I never buy the 2 liters from the pizzeria they're usually 3x as much as the store Arcanetrance Feb 2013 #9

Considering the large number of obese persons in the US, children and adult, limiting soda intake bike man Feb 2013 #18

Watch for potholes while you're chugging your water. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #21

People don't get liter bottles to drink it all by themselves. dkf Feb 2013 #24

YMMV. People do exist who will drink a whole two liter bottle of cola of varied bike man Feb 2013 #55

And because those people christx30 Feb 2013 #81

I had a roommate who would get a two-liter Pepsi with every dinner. Codeine Feb 2013 #145

I'm not American, so don't have any experience of US supermarkets. SwissTony Feb 2013 #25

I don't believe this applies to supermarkets. dkf Feb 2013 #26

Exactly. and te same for groups at a fast food store who orders pitchers of cola. n/t SwissTony Feb 2013 #31

Indeed. In NYC (at least in Manhattan), many supermarkets and even corner stores deliver. KamaAina Feb 2013 #71

Because the pizza shop is a resturant jeff47 Feb 2013 #116

Yes, U.S. supermarkets usually have an entire side of an aisle devoted to coke, etc. amandabeech Feb 2013 #46

Most supermarkets in Australia (where I'm from), SwissTony Feb 2013 #48

I'm not a big pop fan, either. amandabeech Feb 2013 #61

In the UK and Australia, we have ginger beer. SwissTony Feb 2013 #67

I'll be on the lookout for that. amandabeech Feb 2013 #84

Do you have liquor stores/package stores? MADem Feb 2013 #119

In MD, you have state owned stores for liquor, wine and warm beer, amandabeech Feb 2013 #120

Give 'em a call and ask; I'll bet they stock the stuff. It's good. MADem Feb 2013 #122

does his ban cover juice with breakfast? ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #27

Anybody who buys a soda from a pizza place is being ripped off big time graham4anything Feb 2013 #29

It's not an economic argument... SwissTony Feb 2013 #36

The SCIENCE is behind Bloomberg. Environmental factors must change. Simply expecting people to chang KittyWampus Feb 2013 #57

SCIENCE means DATA SwissTony Feb 2013 #64

People will eat/drink what's in front of them graham4anything Feb 2013 #75

Your post is somewhat incoherent, mate. SwissTony Feb 2013 #78

I don't know anyone who lives in France who goes to MacDonalds. graham4anything Feb 2013 #80

..... handmade34 Feb 2013 #87

No one's forcing anyone to live in New York City, so it is indeed "a personal choice" argument. apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #96

No one needs their moves ordered by Fuhrer Warbucks or you TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #41

I don't know where you shop dsc Feb 2013 #42

It's becoming an intrusive government davidn3600 Feb 2013 #43

Anybody who orders delivery from a pizza place is being ripped off big time KamaAina Feb 2013 #68

No debate, But It's their choice, surely. n/t SwissTony Feb 2013 #76

No. It's not. christx30 Feb 2013 #86

Again, what do you have to say about Gloomberg's Union Scribe Feb 2013 #113

Oh, well. At least you got to link to the New York Post. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #33

Cha-ching! Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #51

It's ridiculous union_maid Feb 2013 #37

We need to station police in every Pizza shop whistler162 Feb 2013 #38

Okay, as someone who's dreamed of living in NYC since he was 10... white_wolf Feb 2013 #44

This is Total Crap - The Law Prevents CUPs not Pitchers/Carafes Over 16oz. dballance Feb 2013 #45

Interesting. Thanks for that. I didn't know about the NY Post's poor reputation. white_wolf Feb 2013 #47

I wish I had considered the source before replying to the OP. RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #59

Just what do you think the pizza delivery places bring? jeff47 Feb 2013 #118

The Pepsi police in NY Politicalboi Feb 2013 #53

So just buy two 1-liter bottles Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #54

16 ounces is less than half a liter CBGLuthier Feb 2013 #69

LOL You're right. I totally fail Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #74

I question his motivation. RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #58

We had 7 kids. We could not have afforded to take them out to dinner if we had to buy appleannie1 Feb 2013 #63

A pitcher of soda is NOT included in this so you can have a million pitchers if you wish graham4anything Feb 2013 #127

Pitchers are, in fact, included in 81.53. And Tupperware. sir pball Feb 2013 #150

??? I thought it was 32 ounces. KamaAina Feb 2013 #66

What is reasonable is folks selecting the cup they want and politicians ensuring TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #95

It's 48 ounces. Bloomberg haters have distorted the whole thing. Wellness lovers like this. graham4anything Feb 2013 #130

Your hero is a right wing union-busting goon. Union Scribe Feb 2013 #133

Why do you distort and say he is my hero? He endorsed President Obama twice graham4anything Feb 2013 #138

Even Those who oppose this should stop with the Communist/Hitler, rationing arguments JI7 Feb 2013 #89

Well,they could drink milk or water daleo Feb 2013 #90

Iced tea handmade34 Feb 2013 #94

Corporations handmade34 Feb 2013 #92

Yeah, I don't get it either. randome Feb 2013 #99

Why not limit the amount of toppings on pizza? subterranean Feb 2013 #98

at least handmade34 Feb 2013 #100

Shhhhh, don't give him any ideas. -nt- Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #101

Its not his fault sugar water cost more in a like number of cans... Historic NY Feb 2013 #102

Oh no, Tien1985 Feb 2013 #104

Congrats dkf, LoZoccolo would be proud of you. nt Electric Monk Feb 2013 #107

I know from experience that a 32 0z cup filled with ice left is right Feb 2013 #108

7-11 is NOT included in this as they are not under the NYC health department graham4anything Feb 2013 #129

Here's a little math quiz... brooklynite Feb 2013 #110

... equals two violations of the rule, instead of just one? petronius Feb 2013 #117

My kids and I love to share a Big Gulp. Ilsa Feb 2013 #111

7-11 is not included in all this, so you can drink a 1000 ounce soda there if you chooose graham4anything Feb 2013 #126

The guy is a right wing authoritarian asshole. Union Scribe Feb 2013 #112

And gun control madville Feb 2013 #123

This whole article by Rupert Murdoch's NY Post is a fabrication of the law graham4anything Feb 2013 #131

This is what you call a OwnedByCats Feb 2013 #135

To those who think we can legislate away obesity customerserviceguy Feb 2013 #136

How assinine. HappyMe Feb 2013 #139

Not for this...but it makes sense when you think about everything else.... dminaz Feb 2013 #152

The authoritarian, "you'll-do-what-I-tell-you-to-and-like-it" Bloomberg Seeking Serenity Feb 2013 #154