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Showing Original Post only (View all)Gun Control? We Need Domestic Disarmament (Huffington Post) [View all]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amitai-etzioni/gun-control-we-need-domes_b_2718536.htmlNowhere is the defeatist liberal approach to American politics more evident than in the post-Newtown campaign for gun control. Liberals are rushing to repeat, like a devout incantation, hand on one's heart, that "we believe in the Second Amendment" -- in an "individual's right to own a gun." Half of the legal and moral battle is lost right there and then. Instead, liberals should emphasize that throughout the total American legal history until 2008, the Supreme Court -- which at times has been very conservative -- has always held that the right to own guns belongs not to the individual but, as the Second Amendment states, to a "well regulated militia." (For details on the cases involved, go here). That the right to own guns is a communitarian right, not an individualized one. True, the Roberts Court recently ruled otherwise, but liberals are still free to urge the court to reconsider this ruling and fashion arguments that will make it easier for the Court to fall back in line with all who preceded it. It would also help to recall that other civilized societies hold that the fewer guns there are out there, the fewer people will be murdered by guns.
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As someone who fired guns for over two years in combat, I hate to tell you that the conservatives are right when they argue that banning big magazines and assault rifles -- the current "liberal" opening gambits -- will make very little difference. It takes only a second or so to replace an empty magazine with a loaded one, and there are so many assault rifles out there that it would take at least a generation (assuming no new ones were sold nor imported nor smuggled in nor stolen from military bases) before these guns would become significantly less available than they are at present.
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A true liberal position, the place to start, is to call for domestic disarmament. That is the banning of the sale of all guns to private parties coupled with a buyback of those on the street (Mexico just moved to so control guns). Collectors can keep their guns as long as they remove the firing pin or fill the barrel with cement. Gun sports can be allowed -- in closed shooting ranges. And hunters can be allowed to have long guns (if they pass background checks) with no scopes, which are not sporting. But, these exceptions aside, liberals should call for a gun-free nation and point out the much lower murder rates and fewer deaths due to accidental discharge of fire arms found in those civilized nations where most guns have been removed from private hands -- and often even from those of the police.
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Perhaps the reason that there is no call for all out disarmament is very simple,
MadHound
Feb 2013
#4
The RKBA was effectively an individual right pretty much through our nation's history anyway.
krispos42
Feb 2013
#9
If the Second Amendment wasn't about an armed citizenry, why the hell did they write it?
NYC_SKP
Feb 2013
#11
Unless the Second Amendment were actually overturned, I don't see how this could happen.
OceanEcosystem
Feb 2013
#27
Clearly you keep that one handy in your sporran for just such occasions.
IveWornAHundredPants
Feb 2013
#83
Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither is a gun-free society. It will take a few generations.
mwrguy
Feb 2013
#36
Within that time, there will likely be a societal breakdown, a revolution, natural disaster...
NYC_SKP
Feb 2013
#38
Disarm all police and sheriffs, the FBI, DHS, TSA, NSA, and all involved on US soil
Fire Walk With Me
Feb 2013
#39
You are implying that gun control laws will result in only criminals and cops having guns.
Fire Walk With Me
Feb 2013
#41
That's what we are discussing here, changing the friggin laws that allow yahoos and right wing
Hoyt
Feb 2013
#64
Tee hee, but they sure are funny! I just love the pic of the guy with his gun slung right
CTyankee
Feb 2013
#68
maybe they think women wll think they're "well hung"...when they're probably laughing at them...
CTyankee
Feb 2013
#71
Take this test to find out! I ended up somewhat to the left of Gandhi, LOL
Rhiannon12866
Feb 2013
#89