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rrneck

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Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:20 PM

Feb 2013

Eta: "Amitai Etzioni is proud to announce that he just made the NRA anti gun enemy list. For more discussion see his book My Brother's Keeper."

Right. Just another load of red meat bullshit for the consumption of those who don't care to think overmuch about anything beyond the care and feeding of their own ideology. And cheering their favorite talking heads in the clash of bullshit flingers.

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Gun Control? We Need Domestic Disarmament (Huffington Post) [View all] Peter cotton Feb 2013 OP

"The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed..." NaturalHigh Feb 2013 #1

It is not so simple. RC Feb 2013 #8

What a ridiculous thing to say roxy1234 Feb 2013 #14

What a fucking stupid thing to say. Zoeisright Feb 2013 #90

Per usual the two clauses, of which that is dependent, are ignored nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #10

100% correct malaise Feb 2013 #94

Where is your well regulated militia? Taverner Feb 2013 #34

Nevermind the bit about a well-regulated militia? n/t mattclearing Feb 2013 #96

Finally Brainstormy Feb 2013 #2

Meh. NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #3

Perhaps the reason that there is no call for all out disarmament is very simple, MadHound Feb 2013 #4

Complete disarmament, EXCEPT of course for government employees slackmaster Feb 2013 #5

and dressing it up all the while as a liberal cause. Mojorabbit Feb 2013 #28

And some here claim that no one wants to take them... ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #6

Those who wish bans like this are an extreme minority. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #51

The question is how much of a minority ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #52

Yep. Controller talking point, excepted as gospel. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #59

Nah, that's just scare tactics from the NRA. I'm as liberal as they come ... Scuba Feb 2013 #7

Yep DollarBillHines Feb 2013 #80

The RKBA was effectively an individual right pretty much through our nation's history anyway. krispos42 Feb 2013 #9

If the Second Amendment wasn't about an armed citizenry, why the hell did they write it? NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #11

Additionally, there is a major question in the "State's Rights" argument... dairydog91 Feb 2013 #21

Then heads would explode. NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #23

I think the Second Amendment should be amended. dairydog91 Feb 2013 #25

Rocket launchers are completely legal. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #35

Next time someone here says "they" don't want to ban all guns... MicaelS Feb 2013 #12

Both sides have fringe folks who scream loudly nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #17

Slavery was the other fatal flaw in our 18th century Constitution Kolesar Feb 2013 #29

Yup, and the winner takes all nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #45

The true liberal position is to support empowerment of the individual, closeupready Feb 2013 #13

hear, hear! Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #100

Sounds good to me. At the very least, because gun nuts are annoying... EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #15

So you support taking civil liberties away from annoying people? hack89 Feb 2013 #16

Who needs fancy-pancy rights when you can have raw tribalism? dairydog91 Feb 2013 #22

I've always had a sneaking suspicion... Lurker Dave Feb 2013 #24

Huxley noted that emotion in his first novel, Crome Yellow. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #63

By that same logic, someone could say: OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #30

Someone could say that, but they'd be wrong. IveWornAHundredPants Feb 2013 #82

I love how the author... actslikeacarrot Feb 2013 #18

There is nothing liberal about eliminating or reducing a civil liberty. aikoaiko Feb 2013 #19

... rrneck Feb 2013 #20

Wow, someone is echoing my thoughts completely graham4anything Feb 2013 #26

Well, things *are* known to echo through hollow canyons... Ghost in the Machine Feb 2013 #47

Lol! whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #98

Unless the Second Amendment were actually overturned, I don't see how this could happen. OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #27

I think it could be amended. dairydog91 Feb 2013 #31

You're a liberal? A person with a "true liberal position"? AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #32

Clearly you keep that one handy in your sporran for just such occasions. IveWornAHundredPants Feb 2013 #83

So much for "we don't want take everyone guns" SpartanDem Feb 2013 #33

Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither is a gun-free society. It will take a few generations. mwrguy Feb 2013 #36

But it will not be a "gun free society" oneshooter Feb 2013 #37

Within that time, there will likely be a societal breakdown, a revolution, natural disaster... NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #38

zombies etc... mwrguy Feb 2013 #42

Oh, OK. NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #43

Disarm all police and sheriffs, the FBI, DHS, TSA, NSA, and all involved on US soil Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #39

So, then................ OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #40

You are implying that gun control laws will result in only criminals and cops having guns. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #41

There is one poster that says all he ever needed oneshooter Feb 2013 #46

If you want to read something really funny guardian Feb 2013 #49

+1 NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #44

+2. The author of this is insane and delusional, but of course, closeupready Feb 2013 #54

Someone please tell me again guardian Feb 2013 #48

Cause I am not going to retype... nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #50

Just how often guardian Feb 2013 #70

I see, welcome to the ignore list nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #75

There is nothing liberal about yahoos like this: Hoyt Feb 2013 #53

Nonsense. closeupready Feb 2013 #55

I know a bunch of ole racist/bigoted gun cultists aren't "liberal." Hoyt Feb 2013 #56

Are they doing anything illegal? Cork Feb 2013 #58

Sorry, I don't find racists, confederate flags, guns, etc., worthy of applause. Hoyt Feb 2013 #60

But. Are. They. Doing. Anything. Illegal.? Cork Feb 2013 #61

That's what we are discussing here, changing the friggin laws that allow yahoos and right wing Hoyt Feb 2013 #64

So you admit that they're fully within the law? Cork Feb 2013 #66

Bye, Corky. Hoyt Feb 2013 #102

Tee hee, but they sure are funny! I just love the pic of the guy with his gun slung right CTyankee Feb 2013 #68

I can see where the anatomy joke would come in. Cork Feb 2013 #69

maybe they think women wll think they're "well hung"...when they're probably laughing at them... CTyankee Feb 2013 #71

Well Hung. Cork Feb 2013 #72

well, take a look at them...not the brightest looking bunch... CTyankee Feb 2013 #73

True dat. Cork Feb 2013 #74

How can you tell what political leanings the people in the middle are? Cork Feb 2013 #57

Bigot detector is quite accurate. Tbag flag should convince even you. Hoyt Feb 2013 #62

Bigot detector? Cork Feb 2013 #65

You have a 360� radar AND a 360� blip! nt Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #67

Is that "Dueling Banjos" I hear playing in the background? rdharma Feb 2013 #77

Repeal the amendment wercal Feb 2013 #76

I am in favor of this. valiberal26 Feb 2013 #78

If all my knives were confiscated, how could I cut up my carrots? uppityperson Feb 2013 #79

you forgot the sarcasm tag. n/t actslikeacarrot Feb 2013 #81

Are you also in favor Abq_Sarah Feb 2013 #84

7 post newbie (joined 4 hours ago) with 'liberal' in the username.. X_Digger Feb 2013 #85

I am rather serious on all those accounts. valiberal26 Feb 2013 #86

*pat* *pat* *pat* Whatever you say. n/t X_Digger Feb 2013 #87

You know nothing of me sir valiberal26 Feb 2013 #88

Take this test to find out! I ended up somewhat to the left of Gandhi, LOL Rhiannon12866 Feb 2013 #89

I'm guessing Abq_Sarah Feb 2013 #91

Worth a try Rhiannon12866 Feb 2013 #92

You are most definitely NOT a liberal. Authoritarian? Yes. closeupready Feb 2013 #101

And Who Appointed you Arbiter of What's Good and Right and "Enough" Posts? dballance Feb 2013 #93

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.. X_Digger Feb 2013 #97

No. We've given up enough rights in the last 13 years. Restore all the ones we've given up and... JVS Feb 2013 #95

A broad gun ban is roughly equivalent to single-payer in the healthcare debate. DanTex Feb 2013 #99