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(53,661 posts)And they advised me strongly against having children and not getting under anyone's control. Regarding spousal abuse the saying in my family, although it sounds insensitive, was:
'Hit me once, shame on you. Hit me twice, shame on me.'
It's about breaking trust. I took with me when I left home and had relationships, and decided that being alone was better than putting up with that. Nothing was worth it, not falling into poverty, not becoming homelessness, not being considered moral or pious should hold one back from leaving that relationship. It was why they also cautioned against pregnancy, since it is because of children some people get caught for life.
So it was a complete package, despite problems from the deaths of parents and other people getting involved growing up. Say No, support yourself before you get involved, be independent, don't allow anyone to take you somewhere they will be in control of you. But I don't take it that is the way that some people are being brought up now and I feel bad for young ladies getting stuck.
But that saying, which was about 'keeping women in their place,'was what the good ol' boys said daily on the street, in school, etc. in that area. And as the saying goes 'that train is never late,' since any complaint women might make about anything marital was answered that way.
Of course that was the late fifties and early sixties. Unfortunately, some want to take us back to that or somewhere before that - I shudder to think. Part of their family values, ya know.
Some families valued seeing their kids be all they could be. We knew we weren't in the other group, but they were hard to miss in those days.