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GreenStormCloud

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45. Let'd take a close look at those numbers.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:53 PM
Feb 2013
We had sufficient evidence to judge whether the shooter was a prohibited gun possessor in 42 of the 56 incidents,” the report said, referring to laws barring ex-felons, mentally ill people, drug addicts and other categories of people from owning guns. “Of those 42 incidents, 15 (36 percent) involved a prohibited possessor and 27 (64 percent) did not.”

What percentage of the population is prohibited from owning a gun? I don't have a number but I am confident that is way less than 36%.

What percentage of the population can legally own a gun? Almost everybody over age 21. Way more than 64%.

So the prohibited population that illegally has a gun is strongly disproportionately represented in that total. It takes the huge total of all legal gun owners to get almost twice the number of incidents.

Lesson: If a woman is living with a violent criminal she is in danger, whether he has a gun or not. The most dangerous time is within six months of leaving such a person.

If her male partner is a law-abiding type and hasn't shown any violent tendencies, then she is very safe, even if he has guns.

We who are pro-gun rights do NOT claim that ONLY criminals abuse guns. We do claim that it is rare, but does sometimes happen, for a previously law-abiding person to commit murder as his first serious offense.

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Domestic violence! boston bean Feb 2013 #1
And while it was in force, the Violence Against Women Act cut it by 30% Demeter Feb 2013 #6
exactly. it's background...like music or wallpaper. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #29
Needs to be said, all of it. freshwest Feb 2013 #33
5 reasons why looser gun laws won't guarantee women's safety xchrom Feb 2013 #2
an fyi re #4...restraining orders for stalking -are- mentioned in NICS criteria for prohibition HereSince1628 Feb 2013 #5
'Lautenberg Amendment'. Do not pass go, do not collect 200$, Do not have a firearm AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #16
+1 ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2013 #7
Depends... AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #18
And House Republicans *still* won't move forward on VAWA. Chorophyll Feb 2013 #3
I grew up hearing 'Keep 'em barefoot and pregnant.' But I thought that was bad. Not to them, though. freshwest Feb 2013 #34
ugh! heard this from your family? BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #35
Oh, hell no! My family taught me to be independent, get a career, support myself totally. freshwest Feb 2013 #40
All gun owners are law-abiding and responsible Robb Feb 2013 #4
Exactly. We experienced this in my own family, so we know it so well. CTyankee Feb 2013 #9
What happened to your family? NutmegYankee Feb 2013 #17
My niece was shot and killed by her step grandfather. She had gone with her mother to CTyankee Feb 2013 #23
That's so tragic. NutmegYankee Feb 2013 #26
thank you. I haven't relayed it much because on an earlier occasion I was flatly told by another CTyankee Feb 2013 #31
there are major asswipes here. as you probably know. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #36
well, what it does is make me go back to the whole thing again. CTyankee Feb 2013 #39
oh my god.... BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #28
So sorry to hear your sad story, CTyankee... countryjake Feb 2013 #47
I think there are more instances of gun violence than we want to think there are... CTyankee Feb 2013 #50
And most of the others are work/school related. nt bemildred Feb 2013 #8
No surprise there marions ghost Feb 2013 #10
I watched this some time back SemperEadem Feb 2013 #12
K&R MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #11
K&R! nt sheshe2 Feb 2013 #13
We can't trust fully those who are supposed to "Defend And Protect" us either. Archae Feb 2013 #14
. patrice Feb 2013 #25
I don't know if you are aware of this, Jenoch Feb 2013 #53
I'm glad to hear that. Archae Feb 2013 #54
another fact of how guns kill people samsingh Feb 2013 #15
Damn you with your fancy facts and book lernin'! joeybee12 Feb 2013 #19
The guns may have been legally purchased, but I wonder how many of the massacres were Squinch Feb 2013 #20
Yes, the commonality of all of this is easy accessibility to guns riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #37
I'm with you. Squinch Feb 2013 #56
the point s, for all the shock of mass shootings, murders of women by men outnumber them. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #38
Women & CHILDREN as sacrifices to NRA's psychotic nationalism. BLOOD on your hands Wayne et al. patrice Feb 2013 #21
No truly honest discussion of the demographics of violent crime is possible on DU slackmaster Feb 2013 #22
Ban ALL guns. L0oniX Feb 2013 #24
+1 mwrguy Feb 2013 #51
how often do women try to point this out and get slagged by the "STOP HURTING OUR FEELINGS!!" dudes? BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #27
You do know roxy1234 Feb 2013 #30
your "rebuttal" is rather laughable. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #32
yeah, that was a pretty lame "rebuttal." CTyankee Feb 2013 #41
oh please Skittles Feb 2013 #43
sure...don't trust the DA numbers, don't trust your own experience noiretextatique Feb 2013 #44
Are you disputing the rigorously researched stats that 1 in every 4 women... countryjake Feb 2013 #46
guns don't make life in america better. they just don't. KG Feb 2013 #42
Let'd take a close look at those numbers. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #45
My father undergroundpanther Feb 2013 #48
Oh of course you have PTSD! Tumbulu Feb 2013 #49
Law abiding right up to the moment they aren't. Loudly Feb 2013 #52
How many vehicular homocides were done with registered and insured vehicles? galileoreloaded Feb 2013 #55
Oh, gee, what a surprise! Not. nt Chalco Feb 2013 #57
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