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Raster

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99. In. your. opinion.

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:44 AM

Feb 2013

And it isn't just the treatment of women... or gays... or scientists... or heretics or anyone else that dare challenge the religious status quo. The lists are long, very long.

"Can you really make a comparison between Islam vs Christianity and Judaism (without the dishonesty of going back hundreds of years) in the treatment of women?"

Really? Where are the female priests? Where are the female rabbis? Where are the female imams? Where are the female prophets? Where are the female popes? Inherently in ALL of the abrahamic religions, women are second-class citizens, and have held such derided status for as long as those religions have dogged humanity. In every government influenced by those religions, traditionally women have not had the same weight or worth as men.

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Only 14, Bangladeshi girl charged with adultery was lashed to death [View all] politicat Feb 2013 OP

the power of religious insanity.... mike_c Feb 2013 #1

+1000 valerief Feb 2013 #60

religion is merely a way of justifying BainsBane Feb 2013 #74

Precisely BainsBane, this was just for the sake of power. Uncle Joe Feb 2013 #148

in your opinion, is that all religion does? / nt demwing Mar 2013 #176

no, that's not all it BainsBane Mar 2013 #178

In mine, it does. Daemonaquila Mar 2013 #205

I would amend your remark... ljm2002 Feb 2013 #106

This is why I don't have a problem with drones.. snooper2 Feb 2013 #122

More barbarism in the name of religion. lpbk2713 Feb 2013 #2

the fucking piece of shit imam and those who beat her to death should all be burned to death JI7 Feb 2013 #3

If there was sex at all Aerows Feb 2013 #4

Ah, that is the beauty of life under Sharia (sarcasm) etherealtruth Feb 2013 #12

Horrible. Aerows Feb 2013 #16

Well of course it's the young woman's fault... Raster Feb 2013 #82

And she committed adultery by herself? misswizard1 Feb 2013 #123

Women and girls from Bangladesh should be given political asylum. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #5

It's not just Bangladesh leftynyc Feb 2013 #86

You're right...words fail me...14 years old... joeybee12 Feb 2013 #6

Fuck Islamic fundamentalists. Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #7

Fuck Islamic fundamentalists. AlbertCat Feb 2013 #38

Because it really doesn't matter that the jesus freaks or whoever else used to suck just as bad. Codeine Feb 2013 #62

Amen to that leftynyc Feb 2013 #88

"Well, it IS the biggest pain in the ass right now." AlbertCat Feb 2013 #103

Perhaps because the story pecwae Feb 2013 #78

It's not even the only problem among Bengalis. Indian Bengalis are Hindu, and it's just as bad Recursion Feb 2013 #111

Islam (or Hinduism) gives specific form to the problem but isn't the problem itself. AlbertCat Feb 2013 #112

Fuck all fundamentalists. backscatter712 Feb 2013 #140

Fuck all fundamentalists of every religion. Initech Mar 2013 #184

I don't especially like the people you name, Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #187

I fully understand this is easy for me to say, and that doing it would be much harder DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2013 #8

The horror and pain of this poor girl's last moments from some "justice" handed out by the imam riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #9

Can I assume that tomorrow... Bay Boy Feb 2013 #10

Already happened...sort of... SwissTony Feb 2013 #15

Religion - let's do really evil things and call it "good" Taverner Feb 2013 #11

Saying this is the fault of "religion" is like blaming "government" for Nazism. whathehell Feb 2013 #26

Christians used to behave this way. See: Hypatia. Taverner Feb 2013 #31

Yes, but "used to" is what is key here. whathehell Feb 2013 #45

Islam is 500 years younger. Maybe it's just a matter of time? 0rganism Feb 2013 #69

Sorry, Bro...Mormonism, weird as it may seem, is, perhaps, whathehell Feb 2013 #126

I actually agree with your larger point HomeboyHombre Feb 2013 #129

Mormonism, weird as it may seem, is a branch of Christianity* 0rganism Feb 2013 #132

The Mormons used to, and still occaionally commit, "honor killings" Taverner Feb 2013 #145

Grasp at straws much?..We "used" to do many things -- We now have enforced LAWS against these things whathehell Mar 2013 #196

Some still do: See Uganda Taverner Feb 2013 #118

Uganda? Sure. I'll "see it" whathehell Feb 2013 #124

Well they are American Christian churches, led by American Christian Missionaries Taverner Feb 2013 #146

Keep trying, LOL whathehell Mar 2013 #195

Just admit it... Taverner Mar 2013 #208

Sorry, but you lost me at Ted Bundy, LOL. whathehell Mar 2013 #209

USED to leftynyc Feb 2013 #89

Some still do: See Uganda Taverner Feb 2013 #117

That happens to be a perfect example leftynyc Feb 2013 #121

No proof at all that assertion. Cultures can be completely resistant to change snagglepuss Feb 2013 #119

Christianity also believes in an unchanging God Taverner Feb 2013 #144

Not true. The essence of Christianity is that the Jesus changed God. snagglepuss Feb 2013 #164

HERETIC!!!! BLASPHEMER!!!! Taverner Feb 2013 #165

Women still can't be clergy in a lot of Christian sects. backscatter712 Feb 2013 #141

actually I am going to disagree d_r Mar 2013 #177

Isn't that a variation of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy? Taverner Mar 2013 #180

I honestly dont think it is d_r Mar 2013 #185

this was all about religion and it's poisonous influence.... mike_c Feb 2013 #53

Sure..Keep repeating that and maybe it will become true. whathehell Mar 2013 #194

American Fundamentalist Christians beat their kids to death. LeftyMom Feb 2013 #152

It happens with sickening regularity. redqueen Feb 2013 #158

Please...A few abberant Americans of every & no faith do, but they are then CHARGED with a crime, whathehell Mar 2013 #193

Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum aristocles Feb 2013 #13

Really? And the last time another religion beat a fourteen year old girl to death was,.........? ohiosmith Feb 2013 #17

It happens Fumesucker Feb 2013 #22

You do see the differences though, I trust. cali Feb 2013 #23

Someone implied Christians don't do that sort of thing Fumesucker Feb 2013 #25

People do everything "sometimes", it's a question of whathehell Feb 2013 #48

It's also pertinent to see leftynyc Feb 2013 #135

Thank you...Another DUer refusing the pc directive of false equivalence. whathehell Mar 2013 #198

This was religious, from earlier this month muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #29

Thank You. The "We shall pointedly scorn no religion but Christianity" whathehell Feb 2013 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author AlbertCat Feb 2013 #41

it's like the Gun Control issue with Gun Nuts JI7 Feb 2013 #46

I've noticed that actually. HomeboyHombre Feb 2013 #128

Yes, you'll likely see a lot of that here, unfortunately, though the gutsier truth tellers do seem . whathehell Mar 2013 #199

Yeah, goodness knows American Xtian fundies are legally whipping 14-year-olds to death all the time. Codeine Feb 2013 #19

Of course they are...They're all the same, dontcha know. whathehell Feb 2013 #35

legally whipping 14-year-olds to death all the time. AlbertCat Feb 2013 #50

How about on a regular basis? cali Feb 2013 #90

Really? Would you stand for leftynyc Feb 2013 #91

I do consider that "all the time". AlbertCat Feb 2013 #101

Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum sulphurdunn Feb 2013 #68

Nice religion they got there. cliffordu Feb 2013 #14

Open season on women. What's next, being used for skeet practice? freshwest Feb 2013 #18

If they coud figure out a cheap Ilsa Feb 2013 #42

Or a real life video game, like shooting ducks at the circus. He shoots, he scores! A win! freshwest Feb 2013 #44

Truly evil assholes jsr Feb 2013 #20

Islam, as practiced in too many places, is a brutal oppressor of women. cali Feb 2013 #21

The only appropriate retribution in my opinion LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #24

Not assassinated Drale Feb 2013 #32

OK, shave him, strip him naked, and then beat him to death. Bake Feb 2013 #64

The point is that he survive Drale Feb 2013 #72

strip him naked, wax him from head-to-toe, beat him with a Cure 81 ham... Raster Feb 2013 #83

If that could be accomplished w/o too much opposition that would be great. LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #73

Don't forget the rapist. nt laundry_queen Feb 2013 #75

Ain't Religion GREAT!!! RKP5637 Feb 2013 #27

Again -- Like blaming "government" for Hitler..Could you be just a LITTLE more specific, LOL? whathehell Mar 2013 #197

LOL RKP5637 Mar 2013 #203

bastards n/t warrprayer Feb 2013 #28

man, I know where the next drone should be going... Hulk Smash Feb 2013 #30

I'd even chip in a few bucks towards it. yourout Feb 2013 #33

boy, I wish we could do that...my granddaughter is 14....I would kill barehanded anyone who CTyankee Feb 2013 #37

These people need to be wiped from the earth budkin Feb 2013 #36

God, that poor little girl. polly7 Feb 2013 #39

All the more reason to suppress the Christian Right... WCGreen Feb 2013 #40

Overstatement much? Bake Feb 2013 #66

Give any fundamentalist of any religious persuasion political power, and people die. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #81

Exactly my point.... WCGreen Feb 2013 #130

Fucking nonsense leftynyc Feb 2013 #93

Major case of false equivalency Bake Feb 2013 #108

Exactly. They think the Handmaid's Tale is an instruction manual. backscatter712 Feb 2013 #143

I know exactly what you mean... WCGreen Feb 2013 #163

And I trust the man in the alleged affair went uncharged. Gorp Feb 2013 #43

is anything going to happen to the Imam and those who beat her to death ? JI7 Feb 2013 #47

I suspect the rapist, the imam, and the doctors who lied on the autopsy are all doing just fine renate Feb 2013 #49

Sickening. We need a war against religion Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #51

Well..... probably not *all* religion. I don't see my local Episcopal congregation Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #57

Not since 1700 or so, anyway. politicat Feb 2013 #71

If there is a hell... rateyes Feb 2013 #52

Oh my God---I'm heartbroken. The poor liitle thing.Animals. virgogal Feb 2013 #54

Horrible!! Misogynous religions!! So what about the F'n "married man"/// hue Feb 2013 #55

Primitive culture. Baitball Blogger Feb 2013 #56

They're killing women. Iggo Feb 2013 #58

And homosexuals. Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #59

How DARE they. Far better to WORK them to death... TheMadMonk Feb 2013 #61

are Catholic Church Sexual Abuse threads full of "muslims do it also" JI7 Feb 2013 #63

No - they don't leftynyc Feb 2013 #94

Hell, we have similar nutcases here.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #65

This isn't an isolated nutcase. This is pervasive, widely practiced, culturally approved pnwmom Feb 2013 #76

The guy was to recieve twice as many lashes but he escaped. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #79

The guy was a rapist. His victim was a young girl. Their situations are not comparable. n/t pnwmom Feb 2013 #109

No kidding.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #191

How convenient. nt raccoon Mar 2013 #190

Wasn't it though? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #192

bullshit. utter bullshit. let me know when this happens in the town square of cali Feb 2013 #77

I did, this was an illegal act.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #80

This was an illegal act that is widely tolerated . cali Feb 2013 #85

I disagree... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #92

So - we can expect leftynyc Feb 2013 #95

We will see. Assuming we get a followup to the headline.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #97

Because they're just itching leftynyc Feb 2013 #98

I'm telling you, it's designed to cause two reactions.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #107

So - what's your answer? leftynyc Feb 2013 #110

You already hit on the answer. Civil Prosecution of the principles involved.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #114

A bit pollyanna, dontcha think? leftynyc Feb 2013 #120

So I guess the comparison of a "what if it was here" comparison doesn't work for you.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #125

It wouldn't happen here leftynyc Feb 2013 #134

LOL!!! I'm glad you find it offensive for someone to stand in judgement. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #137

Sorry leftynyc Feb 2013 #138

And here's another story leftynyc Feb 2013 #139

Linking all Muslims with Sharia is like linking all Christians with the KKK. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #150

You're not even trying now leftynyc Feb 2013 #153

It's not surprising to find that stuff.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #159

That's a good point leftynyc Feb 2013 #160

Fundamentalist ANYTHING is bad.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #161

It's only actions that make leftynyc Feb 2013 #166

Mainly because I know people who are Muslim and they hate this crap as much as you. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #167

So what? leftynyc Feb 2013 #168

You obviously don't WANT to get it.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #169

Whatever leftynyc Feb 2013 #171

You STILL don't get it.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #172

What's to get? leftynyc Feb 2013 #173

Who the hell is talking about "hurt feelings"? Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #174

Actually only a 1/2 hour spread over leftynyc Mar 2013 #175

Let me try this again... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #179

You don't have to explain leftynyc Mar 2013 #181

I'm saying it's NOT in the name of Islam. It's by the will of religious fanatics. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #182

The same way the Phelps group leftynyc Mar 2013 #183

I've already seen what you think I do.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #186

But Christianity is bashed here leftynyc Mar 2013 #188

Well, ya know there are some people who say 9/11 was an inside job.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #189

I did not post it to stir hate, nor to point fingers at peacemakers. politicat Feb 2013 #131

I've said we need the equivalent of an international women's shelter.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #133

Horrifying.. one_voice Feb 2013 #67

More evil perpetrated in the name of religion. muntrv Feb 2013 #70

And especially in the name of the three abrahamic religious siblings. Raster Feb 2013 #84

Utter bullshit leftynyc Feb 2013 #96

In. your. opinion. Raster Feb 2013 #99

Are you seriously going leftynyc Feb 2013 #100

so in the jewish religion there have always been female rabbis and female Raster Feb 2013 #104

If it's Islamophobia leftynyc Feb 2013 #105

Shilpi was forced to marry Mehbub Khan several years ago, under circumstances that suggest struggle4progress Mar 2013 #207

No it's not. When it comes to the last century (and more) it's a matter of statisitics and cali Feb 2013 #136

The only difference between these three is a matter of degree. backscatter712 Feb 2013 #147

A matter of degree? leftynyc Feb 2013 #149

Oh, and Christianity doesn't abuse women and treat them like property? backscatter712 Feb 2013 #151

Spare me this ridiculous comparison leftynyc Feb 2013 #155

Oh, yeah, sure. whathehell Mar 2013 #201

The backward woman hating nitwits nearest you aren't Muslim. LeftyMom Feb 2013 #156

Excellent-another poster leftynyc Feb 2013 #157

Why no updates... article said they were arrested 2 years ago kdmorris Feb 2013 #87

And yet, the parents' faith is probably as strong as ever. sadbear Feb 2013 #102

Simple curiosity: what drew you to this two-year-old article? Recursion Feb 2013 #113

It popped up in my RSS reader (via a tech blogger I follow), then disappeared from it. politicat Feb 2013 #115

Oh, same here: this is the sort of thing I would think I would hear about Recursion Feb 2013 #116

The married man was given a stern talking to . . . HomeboyHombre Feb 2013 #127

And, just like that, the story of the girl is lost Union Scribe Feb 2013 #142

Oh my heart breaks. myrna minx Feb 2013 #154

Somehow I knew the religion in question was not... Quantess Feb 2013 #162

... DeSwiss Feb 2013 #170

And the worst thing is, our right-wing warmongers helped enable these things by politicizing them. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #200

Not that I don't trust CNN... MelungeonWoman Mar 2013 #202

Google shows that The Guardian broke the story before CNN politicat Mar 2013 #204

Notice how everyone reaches for their 'religion' broad brush?! Zax2me Mar 2013 #206