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oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:06 PM Feb 2013

I just finished my Federal taxes for 2012 ..... [View all]

.... using Turbotax. I know there is a lot of interest here regarding effective tax rates between us and the 1%, so I'll share mine here.

(edited to add I take the standard deduction.)

I'm not rich. I'm retired and live on a pension, social security and a small withdrawal from my IRA. I take the Standard Deduction (no fancy loophole deductions.) I also sold some stocks from my small brokerage account to get the funds to help my son with the down payment for his first house purchase last year, so I had a bit of long term capital gains tax, just like a rich guy. I also have some tax free interest income from a tax free municipal bond fund in my brokerage account. Not nearly enough to live on, but enough for a dinner out every couple of months.

The good news is that I get to contribute a total of $12,154 to our society in the form of Federal Income Tax for the year 2012.

And here are the effective tax rates:
Tax on Total Income: 11.7%
Tax on Adjusted Gross Income: 11.7% (I don't have any adjustments)
Tax on Taxable Income: 14.7%

I don't think that is too great a burden to pay for the benefits of living in a civilized society. You can do the math and see that I am doing OK in retirement so far. I like to think that is the result of a long and stable career in engineering, a stable family, good retirement planning, (mostly) wise investments, and being fortunate in having had no major medical or other emergencies. I hope this luck holds.

So I pay almost 15% of my retirement income in Federal income tax. I'm not complaining. But since I didn't have enough withheld from my pension (and 85% of my SS is taxable) I end up still owing the Feds almost $2300. (First time I have not gotten a refund in over 30 years.) I think I will wait until April 15 to send them a check.

What do you think of the rates compared to a 1%er? How do yours compare?



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Funny you should ask. Your pension must be better than mine. trof Feb 2013 #1
Yes, I am very happy with my pension .... oldhippie Feb 2013 #3
PBGC took over my pension when TWA folded. trof Feb 2013 #46
Yup. Bummer is right ...... oldhippie Feb 2013 #49
Well your pension must be extremely generous or you've done something marybourg Feb 2013 #2
Yes, I will admit to being happy with my pension ..... oldhippie Feb 2013 #5
Standard deduction, no credits. No carryover cap losses. marybourg Feb 2013 #9
Yes, turbotax does that oldhippie Feb 2013 #10
DINK (dual income, no kids) NMDemDist2 Feb 2013 #4
have you added your FICA and state taxes ... please do ...as the rich pay a very small portion srican69 Feb 2013 #6
No state taxes here in Texas, and for FICA .... oldhippie Feb 2013 #7
I work on a 1099 - so I pay 15% FICA straight off the bat and income taxes on top of that ... srican69 Feb 2013 #8
you should be able to deduct half of that hfojvt Feb 2013 #15
I used TaxACT for the first time since we can no longer afford to pay our CPA... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #11
I only used a CPA twice, and fired him ...... oldhippie Feb 2013 #12
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #13
Why would you say that? oldhippie Feb 2013 #14
Because one way or another, the IRS is going to bend you over. Gorp Feb 2013 #17
A Jury Didn't Think It was Cool HangOnKids Feb 2013 #19
What? Why on earth was that post hidden? oldhippie Feb 2013 #20
I Just Commented On The Hidden Thread HangOnKids Feb 2013 #25
I know why. Alerter must be a Ron Obvious Award winner. valerief Feb 2013 #27
You're Paying Slightly More (Percentage-wise) than Mitt Romney Yavin4 Feb 2013 #16
you make over $100,000 a year for not working hfojvt Feb 2013 #18
It's more of a case of him having benefited from union membership ellisonz Feb 2013 #21
I was a member of the AFGE .... oldhippie Feb 2013 #24
Maybe it's because I already spent 40 years working in a .... oldhippie Feb 2013 #22
Don't worry - anybody using financial data on DU who is not homeless will inevitably be called rich dmallind Feb 2013 #26
if you are in the top 20% you are in the top 20% hfojvt Feb 2013 #43
I am not asking you to feel bad hfojvt Feb 2013 #39
OK. Thank you for your comments ...... oldhippie Feb 2013 #45
It is not for "not" working. Drahthaardogs Feb 2013 #33
is a labor Democrat supposed to be applauding the rich? hfojvt Feb 2013 #47
Why don't you join a union? Drahthaardogs Feb 2013 #51
then why doesn't everybody just join a union? hfojvt Feb 2013 #53
So your pension is good, but his Drahthaardogs Feb 2013 #54
I work for the government hfojvt Feb 2013 #55
Your story has inconsistencies. Drahthaardogs Feb 2013 #58
you make a lot of assumptions hfojvt Feb 2013 #60
crips, $100,000 a year RILib Feb 2013 #57
I plan to use TaxActOnline which I used last year. ananda Feb 2013 #23
Does anyone know if I should still file joint although my spouse passed in March 2012?.. Little Star Feb 2013 #28
I'm really sorry for your loss A Little Weird Feb 2013 #36
Thank You. I'll look at that link so thanks for that also. Little Star Feb 2013 #41
You might want to call up the IRS and ask them. truedelphi Feb 2013 #52
I looked at your link and found.... Little Star Mar 2013 #61
I haven't had to deal with that yet ..... oldhippie Feb 2013 #38
Thank You and I too hope you have a very long time before you ever have to deal with this. Little Star Feb 2013 #42
My pension is $4310.00 gross a month bigdarryl Feb 2013 #29
Do you usually get a small refund ... oldhippie Feb 2013 #40
Rejoice if you get to pay taxes! peace13 Feb 2013 #30
That's what my dad always said ..... oldhippie Feb 2013 #31
Say what? FreeJoe Feb 2013 #32
Deductions and exemptions are on the back of .... oldhippie Feb 2013 #35
Rates FreeJoe Feb 2013 #34
I guess that was a point I was trying to make ...... oldhippie Feb 2013 #37
15%? Mitt Romney pays 13.9%. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #44
I used TurboTax as well. Here are my numbers: W_HAMILTON Feb 2013 #48
Thanks oldhippie Feb 2013 #50
My numbers in your format FreeJoe Feb 2013 #56
Thank you for those numbers, and your comments .... oldhippie Feb 2013 #59
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