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Gorp

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14. It's also a good description of the awareness of modesty (with regards to naughty bits).
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:57 PM
Feb 2013

We're the only ape that clothes themselves to hide our parts. Perhaps that's what distinguishes humans from the other apes, except that we're also the only ape that intentionally destroys its own environment, along with all of the other creatures we take along with us.

The other thing to consider is that all religious texts evolve on their own. The words "and the glory" in "The Lord's Prayer" are thought to have been copied into a manuscript because some monk had written it in the margin. The King James version is the most widely used of any version in the US, yet it was revised to its current form for political reasons.

Most people I've encountered get a deer in the headlights look when discussing multiple versions of the bible. They just can't wrap their heads around the idea that there could be more than one. There are a shitload of different versions and we've got at least a dozen. I've seen several, well, I guess you could call them family trees of the versions, but the lineage is amazing. With all of the versions, inclusions, exclusions, modifications, translations, translations OF translations, how can we really know what the definitive word really is?

The answer simply is, we can't.

It isn't just the bible. Any writing left to time will evolve through language translation and the dialect of the current time. George Washington cut down a cherry tree in older history books. The reality is that it was an anectdote to support his integrity. In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue. He didn't discover America. The Nordic sailors were here long before that.

Davy Crocket never killed a bear by grinning it to death either. So much of what is taught as "history" is based on legend and stories passed down and modified with time. In the relatively short time that Europeans have been on this continent, even our own history of the time has evolved, been updated, and much of it disputed. Superimpose that problem on the entire history of the universe and you've got a distortion of, well, biblical proportions.

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"tantamount to abuse of our children." ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2013 #1
Further proof that there are rational, reasonable theists. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2013 #2
The irony is that the "seven day" thing can be completely true,... Gorp Feb 2013 #3
nice points. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2013 #4
I've been discussing the concept of co-existance of creationism and evolution since the 70's. Gorp Feb 2013 #5
Creationism and evolution really can't coexist. At least not if you mean "special creation" or ID. yellowcanine Feb 2013 #6
You can use the definition you provided or what's currently called "guided evolution". Gorp Feb 2013 #7
Nah, we live in a freckled face kid!s computer nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #9
I don't do cosmology - I'm not into makeup. Gorp Feb 2013 #10
I don't have a problem with a God "imagining a universe." yellowcanine Feb 2013 #12
It's also a good description of the awareness of modesty (with regards to naughty bits). Gorp Feb 2013 #14
There's nothing in creationism that is science Bradical79 Feb 2013 #8
Right - any creator is not science. I misspoke. yellowcanine Feb 2013 #16
a whole new meaning to the big bang? ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2013 #19
"Eras" doesn't quite work either because the earth exists before the sun does. yellowcanine Feb 2013 #11
The day/era 4 thing with the sun has always baffled me. Where did "light" come from on day one? Gorp Feb 2013 #13
"hell is other people" Alternatively, if we are honest, "hell is other people and myself." yellowcanine Feb 2013 #17
I think "No Exit" at least implied that. Gorp Feb 2013 #21
No. It can't... SidDithers Feb 2013 #15
"uninformed ramblings of bronze age mystics". "uniformed" by science, anyways. yellowcanine Feb 2013 #18
I disagree. There were three primary authors of Genesis (as far as we know). Gorp Feb 2013 #20
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