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Fawke Em

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45. When I was a college reporter and trying to wrest crimes

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:59 PM

Feb 2013

as being part of FERPA - meaning, they are crimes and they should be as reportable as any crime reported to the city police - I had many long conversations with disciplinary deans about why those reported to them aren't "crimes."

Their idea was, because it wasn't reported to a court of law, it wasn't a "crime," but a disciplinary action.

While I got their legal definition, I didn't buy it.

My fellow school reporters and I from the University of Tennessee sued the U.S. Department of Education and it's then secretary, Lamar Alexander, our university's former president, and won in summary judgment. The federal court judge found that preventing the exposure of these crimes violated the 1st, 4th and 14th Amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

How are these schools skirting that court ruling?

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College Rape Survivor Faces Potential Expulsion For �Intimidating� Her Rapist [View all] redqueen Feb 2013 OP

And yet Fox host says it doesn't happen: CurtEastPoint Feb 2013 #1

Wow. nt redqueen Feb 2013 #2

Holy crap. n/t gollygee Feb 2013 #4

Stupid person. Rex Feb 2013 #17

Fired? He'll probably get a raise! They're well paid for this crap. mountain grammy Feb 2013 #29

Oh no doubt! Probably get a promotion! Rex Feb 2013 #32

Beckel is one of their token Democrats, too NewJeffCT Feb 2013 #22

Incredible. ronnie624 Feb 2013 #28

Ugly things have been coming to light lately about UNC and how they handle rape complaints. Butterbean Feb 2013 #3

Rape is being downplayed and rape victims denied justice at many campuses. (trigger warning) redqueen Feb 2013 #5

Holy mother of crap. That is just...........oh my God. Butterbean Feb 2013 #7

Oh my god ellie Feb 2013 #23

Pretty much this. I read that with my eyes bugging out of my head Butterbean Feb 2013 #46

Evil fuckers MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #6

No. A rape culture where we are conditioned to behave in this manner. seabeyond Feb 2013 #9

Oh, please. They are perfectly aware. This was a conscious choice. MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #15

Here is how one journalist said what sea said above. redqueen Feb 2013 #11

Tell that to the evil fuckers at UNC. This is about them, and don't tell me they didn't know what MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #16

The young woman, the other student who was victim-blaming... redqueen Feb 2013 #20

Mike Adams who writes continuously about who tough it is to be a conservative el_bryanto Feb 2013 #8

Who? Was he quoted or something? redqueen Feb 2013 #10

Sorry - just someone who comes to mind when UNC is brought up el_bryanto Feb 2013 #13

Wilmington and Chapel Hill are two different places... Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #12

Thanks for the clarification - i didn't see the Chapel Hill reference and I'm not familiar with UNC el_bryanto Feb 2013 #14

The UNC system CRK7376 Feb 2013 #36

This is Chapel Hill obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #21

My son is a Freshman CRK7376 Feb 2013 #35

There are 16 campuses in the UNC System jmowreader Feb 2013 #44

Horrible. Rex Feb 2013 #18

Why on earth would she go to the honor court instead of the "real" police? Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #19

She did report this to the authorities obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #24

And the police did nothing? SunSeeker Feb 2013 #26

The issue is the article is about a campus matter, not the criminal matter obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #40

Rape is a CRIME. Why have there been no charges filed with the POLICE? nt SunSeeker Feb 2013 #25

Rape culture says some rapes arent 'rape rape'. redqueen Feb 2013 #27

It is first and foremost a crime, and should be treated that way. SunSeeker Feb 2013 #31

When I was a college reporter and trying to wrest crimes Fawke Em Feb 2013 #45

That is a very good question. redqueen Feb 2013 #60

Some truly evil shit here. Initech Feb 2013 #30

But let's get more outraged over Seth McFarlane and the Oscars, yes? truebrit71 Feb 2013 #33

Misogyny exists on a continuum. redqueen Feb 2013 #34

I'm for examining a misandry continuum, to see what works as a deterrent to rape. ancianita Feb 2013 #39

Better to work towards a society that values and respects women, redqueen Feb 2013 #43

Sure, because it's so "evolutionary" in concept. But a 'swerve' here and there might help, as well. ancianita Feb 2013 #55

are you saying men get offended (by misandry) into raping women? bettyellen Feb 2013 #53

Of course not. I'm saying that misandry is defensive, and that defensive systems can be set up. ancianita Feb 2013 #54

Women's nonviolent approaches haven't worked -- at any level -- from the familial to the state level ancianita Feb 2013 #57

oh thanks for clarifying. gosh, i do agree menkind are not setting a great example for us to follow bettyellen Feb 2013 #58

i'm not saying that they're "setting a great example." But at this point, "men's terms" might be ancianita Feb 2013 #59

Sorry! I'm so sleep deprived, that got garbled. Using men's terms is definitely something bettyellen Feb 2013 #61

McFarlane made a joke of women being raped obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #41

No he didn't. But nice try though. truebrit71 Feb 2013 #49

Any "joke" that tries to get an oppressed class to 'get' the humor isn't funny. ancianita Feb 2013 #56

Contemptible Smilo Feb 2013 #37

This is fairly common. redqueen Feb 2013 #38

:-( Smilo Feb 2013 #62

Freaking unbelievable...nt joeybee12 Feb 2013 #42

it's an institution of Lower Learning. nt TeamPooka Feb 2013 #47

Uh, is there any evidence this woman was actually raped? Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #48

So not surprised to see you waving the 'false rape' flag. redqueen Feb 2013 #51

Just asking for basic facts, but not surprised that you're not surprised. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #52

So people should start having skepticism rather than sympathy for women who say they were raped? alp227 Feb 2013 #63

Sexual assault seems to be the only crime where people knee-jerk believe that an allegation is false nomorenomore08 Feb 2013 #64

Let's call this a UNCYA, Penn State/Paterno cover-up... alp227 Feb 2013 #50