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(114,904 posts) Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:20 AM Feb 2013

Seth MacFarlane criticized by female California lawmakers [View all]

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/political/la-me-pc-california-women-oscars-20130226,0,3817161.story

The Banality of Seth MacFarlane's Sexism and Racism at the Oscars
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/02/the-banality-of-seth-macfarlanes-sexism-and-racism-at-the-oscars/273460/

Oscars 2013: How Seth MacFarlane's sexist jokes hurt women
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-oscars-2013-macfarlane-sexist-jokes-hurt-women-20130225,0,1140677.story

9 Sexist Things That Happened At The Oscars
http://www.buzzfeed.com/hillaryreinsberg/sexist-things-at-the-oscars

Seth MacFarlane and the Oscars’ Hostile, Ugly, Sexist Night
Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2013/02/seth-macfarlane-and-the-oscars-hostile-ugly-sexist-night.html#ixzz2M5nkGe5m

Yes, Seth MacFarlane's Oscar Jokes Were Sexist, And Yes It Matters - See more at: http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Yes-Seth-MacFarlane-Oscar-Jokes-Were-Sexist-Yes-It-Matters-35994.html#sthash.JmJDQ6lG.dpuf

Seth MacFarlane’s sexist Oscar flop.
http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/poplife/2013/02/25/seth-macfarlanes-sexist-oscar-flop/

Seth MacFarlane's Sexist Jokes, Transcribed
http://nymag.com/thecut/2013/02/all-seth-macfarlanes-sexist-jokes-transcribed.html

Seth MacFarlane's Oscars opener was a great, steaming misogynist turd
http://www.newstatesman.com/glosswitch/2013/02/postmodern-irony-and-appreciation-tits

Between Seth MacFarlane and the Onion, Oscars night was a festival of misogyny
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/26/seth-macfarlane-onion-oscars-misogyny

None of these men and women could possibly have a point. The women are all think skinned, humorless whiners, filled with 'poutrage' who can't let go. The men are clearly under the thumbs of harridans; feminazis. They're all pathetic and they don't get that MacFarlane was being subversive and post-ironic. Or something.

And no, I won't let it go. Much of the reaction here at DU has been an approximation of the above paragraph. That reflects a sexism problem here on DU- much as that will be vehemently denied.

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Seth MacFarlane criticized by female California lawmakers [View all] cali Feb 2013 OP

I was brow beat by a male on DU boston bean Feb 2013 #1

If you object and you're a woman lunatica Feb 2013 #5

A lot of this discussion happens in meta. boston bean Feb 2013 #22

Yes, going by meta you'd think the use of the p word as an insult wasn't at all sexist or misogynist redqueen Feb 2013 #58

Or bringing a post to the attention to others in Meta that had rape boston bean Feb 2013 #60

... theKed Feb 2013 #2

Enjoy yourself lunatica Feb 2013 #7

Oh, get over yourself. theKed Feb 2013 #8

No lunatica Feb 2013 #9

There's yet another for my chervilant Feb 2013 #12

Suit yourself theKed Feb 2013 #13

Misogynist much? lunatica Feb 2013 #14

Nope, not even for a second theKed Feb 2013 #15

wow Vinnie From Indy Feb 2013 #36

You're assuming the poster is a he aren't you? lunatica Feb 2013 #37

It really does not matter if the poster is male or female Vinnie From Indy Feb 2013 #41

IMHO he actually was being subversive, but I totally get how/why people got offended. eShirl Feb 2013 #3

Thank you. That's how I saw it, too. djean111 Feb 2013 #11

Asking honestly. I'm not sure what you mean. boston bean Feb 2013 #33

presenting an over-the-top reflection of the industry at its yearly self-congratulation ceremony eShirl Feb 2013 #46

but it wasn't so over the top, I don't know how anyone could call that edgy.... bettyellen Feb 2013 #49

I wasn't offended, to me it was his usual unfunny idea of humor. He's not that good. reformist2 Feb 2013 #4

I'm so glad I make it my policy SemperEadem Feb 2013 #6

Agreed Sherman A1 Feb 2013 #16

Me too, I NEVER watch. nt Raine Feb 2013 #77

The ugliness of sexism ... chervilant Feb 2013 #10

I will never forget the time I complained about the term 'throws like a girl'. redqueen Feb 2013 #59

After repeated attacks for "over-reacting," chervilant Feb 2013 #68

K&R stonecutter357 Feb 2013 #17

You know Dorian Gray Feb 2013 #18

The boob song was about the only funny thing about his performance. EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #24

MacFarlane is lame as hell. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #19

at first i thought no big deal but after some time i think i have changed my mind leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #20

To me it was relegating them to a set of boobs. boston bean Feb 2013 #21

what was the kate winslet section? I missed that Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2013 #30

at the end he, after mentioning all the women who were topless and the movies they were topless in, leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #43

When "lawmakers" become television critics, we're in for a world of hurt. nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #23

This whole thing reminds me of Imus at the WH Correspondents Dinner. reflection Feb 2013 #25

lol, I was thinking Colbert in 2006 eShirl Feb 2013 #47

I love Seth. I just wish he had a johnson song for the guys. valerief Feb 2013 #26

Yes, men don't have to show it to get a role. He is a total anomaly Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2013 #29

imo .. most men have no problem what so ever of showing it to anyone. leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #45

may be. but you rarely see it in film Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2013 #75

Does this song help? thesquanderer Feb 2013 #65

Seems to me like these award shows have a choice to make. AngryOldDem Feb 2013 #27

think part of the problem with the Oscars is that they give one important award out Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2013 #31

I think the Tonys are the gold standard for awards shows. AngryOldDem Feb 2013 #48

I have a feeling theKed Feb 2013 #91

Why was the gay choir insulting and demeaning? There's plenty of buzz valerief Feb 2013 #32

It just didn't sit right with me. AngryOldDem Feb 2013 #44

Nah, the bit was making a mockery of Hollywood standards. valerief Feb 2013 #67

In my opinion Revanchist Feb 2013 #98

It's certainly the last time he will host, for sure. And, I read he doesn't give a shit Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2013 #28

Why is he calling out the labor and not the management then? MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #35

guess he didn't want to totally trash the entire process of making movies and performing Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2013 #39

But it's OK to shame boob-showing actresses, when it wasn't their idea to show them, but the boss's? MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #53

guess we don't know that for a fact, but I thought think he thought he was shaming them Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2013 #74

I think there's also an element to the boob thing about how guys are both into seeing it yet bettyellen Feb 2013 #50

Thank you and K&R. You know, I can't count the number of movies MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #34

Have you read about which movies some of those "boobs" were gleaned from? countryjake Feb 2013 #76

Hadn't seen that... thanks. Damn, MacFarlane's an even bigger POS than I thought. MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #78

Dumb argument. Dawgs Feb 2013 #38

Why are you bothering withthis matter? backtoblue Feb 2013 #40

Go to meta gollygee Feb 2013 #42

fuck. really? really? You're comparing these articles from these writers cali Feb 2013 #54

Ha! You make me laugh. n/t Dawgs Feb 2013 #61

Thank you, cali. redqueen Feb 2013 #51

I know we don't always agree, but on this, thank you for having my back cali Feb 2013 #52

I'm sorry you're getting so many hateful, ugly comments. redqueen Feb 2013 #56

what gets me is the blind obtuseness and the stupid deflection cali Feb 2013 #64

It is an extremely common tactic. redqueen Feb 2013 #66

Ugh! I know. smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #72

I ageee. Thank you for your thoughtful post. smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #99

It really hits home on what a man club Hollywood really is. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #55

I get the lawmakers' point Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #57

From what I read their complaint is specific to the Oscar ceremony. Don't see why that obligates MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #81

Had they ever made any major complaints about any other event? Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #87

We have so many homeless here in California. In my county which is mostly rural and underpopulated, Cleita Feb 2013 #62

Eloquently put LittleBlue Feb 2013 #71

Instead of attacking an awards show host VenusRising Feb 2013 #63

Agreed! (no text) Quantess Feb 2013 #70

Giving money doesn't and shouldn't exempt you from being slapped. MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #79

He doesn't just give money. VenusRising Feb 2013 #83

MacFarlane delivered exactly as everyone expected him to Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #69

But does that make it right? nt justiceischeap Feb 2013 #73

People who do not like his type of humor should not have tuned in Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #94

So it's the viewers fault that he offended them because they watched? justiceischeap Feb 2013 #95

Whom do you mean by "everyone"? I had barely ever heard of this asshole. MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #80

I hear they pick the Oscars host at random out of the phone book. eShirl Feb 2013 #82

Too bad they didn't this time. MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #84

Nobody has a sense of humor anymore Sky Masterson Feb 2013 #85

Did you read any of the linked articles? redqueen Feb 2013 #92

No Sky Masterson Feb 2013 #93

Have these people even seen anything MacFarlane has done outside of the Academy Awards? BlueStater Feb 2013 #86

i don't watch that shit, so i couldn't complain :shrug: n/t Scout Feb 2013 #88

i rarely wtch tv. i was flipping thru the channel and paused on it. didnt even know what it was. seabeyond Feb 2013 #89

"a great, steaming misogynist turd" G_j Feb 2013 #90

That article on the "Sexiest Things that Happened at the Oscars" was a disappointment. Bucky Feb 2013 #96

Maybe the reaction on DU has to do with SpartanDem Feb 2013 #97