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Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
58. Your story has inconsistencies.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:24 AM
Feb 2013

Assuming you are a janitor, you are a wage-grade employee, not a GS. If you are a janitor working for the feds, YOU should be happy. Your private sector counterparts get minimum wage and no benefits. There are very few of you left. I have not seen a WG janitor in over 12 years. I have NEVER seem a GS janitor. They were all (quite sadly I might add) contracted away to private industry a long time ago.

As an unskilled laborer, the fact that you have health insurance, a pension, and vacation and sick leave is awesome and far too rare these days. However, despite your protestations to the contrary, those nice benefits were provided to you by your union members at the AFLCIOI. To take the benefits (yes, you do get union wages and benefits, but not Davis-Bacon for unskilled labor) and not pay the dues sounds like a scab to me. Saying they do not benefit you...well that is just spitting in their face. Just an FYI, there is nothing worse than someone who cusses a farmer with a mouthful of food.

As for your pension, that also does not add up. If you have been a janitor for 27 years you are under not under FERS, but CSRS. You don't get Social Security, you have a private account (much like PERA). FERS went into effect in 1987, so you made it, but barely. You should, have the old system, which is known as the "golden handcuffs". If you opted out of CSRS, that was really a bad move on your part.

In addition, if you are (for some weird reason) you are under FERS, you do not have an IRA. You belong to the Thrift Savings Plan which is different and you know it. Your employer also matches the first 5% of your contributions -- you union members say "your welcome". If you are under CSRS, you can still contribute to the TSP, but your employer will not match contributions.


Is this really just a troll on your part to try to make a point?

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Funny you should ask. Your pension must be better than mine. trof Feb 2013 #1
Yes, I am very happy with my pension .... oldhippie Feb 2013 #3
PBGC took over my pension when TWA folded. trof Feb 2013 #46
Yup. Bummer is right ...... oldhippie Feb 2013 #49
Well your pension must be extremely generous or you've done something marybourg Feb 2013 #2
Yes, I will admit to being happy with my pension ..... oldhippie Feb 2013 #5
Standard deduction, no credits. No carryover cap losses. marybourg Feb 2013 #9
Yes, turbotax does that oldhippie Feb 2013 #10
DINK (dual income, no kids) NMDemDist2 Feb 2013 #4
have you added your FICA and state taxes ... please do ...as the rich pay a very small portion srican69 Feb 2013 #6
No state taxes here in Texas, and for FICA .... oldhippie Feb 2013 #7
I work on a 1099 - so I pay 15% FICA straight off the bat and income taxes on top of that ... srican69 Feb 2013 #8
you should be able to deduct half of that hfojvt Feb 2013 #15
I used TaxACT for the first time since we can no longer afford to pay our CPA... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #11
I only used a CPA twice, and fired him ...... oldhippie Feb 2013 #12
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #13
Why would you say that? oldhippie Feb 2013 #14
Because one way or another, the IRS is going to bend you over. Gorp Feb 2013 #17
A Jury Didn't Think It was Cool HangOnKids Feb 2013 #19
What? Why on earth was that post hidden? oldhippie Feb 2013 #20
I Just Commented On The Hidden Thread HangOnKids Feb 2013 #25
I know why. Alerter must be a Ron Obvious Award winner. valerief Feb 2013 #27
You're Paying Slightly More (Percentage-wise) than Mitt Romney Yavin4 Feb 2013 #16
you make over $100,000 a year for not working hfojvt Feb 2013 #18
It's more of a case of him having benefited from union membership ellisonz Feb 2013 #21
I was a member of the AFGE .... oldhippie Feb 2013 #24
Maybe it's because I already spent 40 years working in a .... oldhippie Feb 2013 #22
Don't worry - anybody using financial data on DU who is not homeless will inevitably be called rich dmallind Feb 2013 #26
if you are in the top 20% you are in the top 20% hfojvt Feb 2013 #43
I am not asking you to feel bad hfojvt Feb 2013 #39
OK. Thank you for your comments ...... oldhippie Feb 2013 #45
It is not for "not" working. Drahthaardogs Feb 2013 #33
is a labor Democrat supposed to be applauding the rich? hfojvt Feb 2013 #47
Why don't you join a union? Drahthaardogs Feb 2013 #51
then why doesn't everybody just join a union? hfojvt Feb 2013 #53
So your pension is good, but his Drahthaardogs Feb 2013 #54
I work for the government hfojvt Feb 2013 #55
Your story has inconsistencies. Drahthaardogs Feb 2013 #58
you make a lot of assumptions hfojvt Feb 2013 #60
crips, $100,000 a year RILib Feb 2013 #57
I plan to use TaxActOnline which I used last year. ananda Feb 2013 #23
Does anyone know if I should still file joint although my spouse passed in March 2012?.. Little Star Feb 2013 #28
I'm really sorry for your loss A Little Weird Feb 2013 #36
Thank You. I'll look at that link so thanks for that also. Little Star Feb 2013 #41
You might want to call up the IRS and ask them. truedelphi Feb 2013 #52
I looked at your link and found.... Little Star Mar 2013 #61
I haven't had to deal with that yet ..... oldhippie Feb 2013 #38
Thank You and I too hope you have a very long time before you ever have to deal with this. Little Star Feb 2013 #42
My pension is $4310.00 gross a month bigdarryl Feb 2013 #29
Do you usually get a small refund ... oldhippie Feb 2013 #40
Rejoice if you get to pay taxes! peace13 Feb 2013 #30
That's what my dad always said ..... oldhippie Feb 2013 #31
Say what? FreeJoe Feb 2013 #32
Deductions and exemptions are on the back of .... oldhippie Feb 2013 #35
Rates FreeJoe Feb 2013 #34
I guess that was a point I was trying to make ...... oldhippie Feb 2013 #37
15%? Mitt Romney pays 13.9%. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #44
I used TurboTax as well. Here are my numbers: W_HAMILTON Feb 2013 #48
Thanks oldhippie Feb 2013 #50
My numbers in your format FreeJoe Feb 2013 #56
Thank you for those numbers, and your comments .... oldhippie Feb 2013 #59
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