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joeglow3

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301. This is not an uncommon theme in "romance" novels

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:56 AM

Feb 2013

The story of the broken man who keeps tabs on his women, follows them around, and performs many other abusive behaviors who is eventually cured after the woman loves him long enough.

There was a comparison done with the main protagonist in Twilight between his behavior and signs of abuser from the National Domestic Abuse Hotline and he hit every single one. Now, take a look at the demographics of who is reading these books and going to these movies. Clearly, there is something societal going on. What it is, I do not claim to know. Maybe it is that society has beat down women's collective self esteem. Maybe society has conditioned them that they need to grab on to and keep whatever man they have because it is shameful to not have a man. Whatever it is, I do find it disturbing to think that so many people do not find this type of story repugnant.

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You saw their boobs? Now go fuck yourself. [View all] cali Feb 2013 OP

Sure it was a childish skit Bay Boy Feb 2013 #1

lame and inaccurate excuse. It was misogynistic and cali Feb 2013 #2

Yes...yes they are... pipi_k Feb 2013 #31

I can see your dirty pillows. Everyone can. Ian David Feb 2013 #42

It's alright. I didn't want to sleep tonight anyways. Dash87 Feb 2013 #231

SCHEDULING IAN FOR ASS KICKING Skittles Feb 2013 #353

Steve Martin did a skit (I think on SNL) where he listed such names and followed with... Gorp Feb 2013 #143

It wasn't the use of the word boobs that was the problem Matariki Feb 2013 #207

Yes ! Nt Tumbulu Feb 2013 #283

Exactly. I am SOOOO tired of this shit I could scream. I did not watch the Oscars, and am so Nay Feb 2013 #304

Exactly. The public demeaning of women under the cover of "jokes" is what racists do when they ancianita Feb 2013 #321

Won't laugh, won't do it. Won't "lighten up." chimpymustgo Feb 2013 #352

ahhh... chervilant Feb 2013 #157

In which the "so that makes it all OK" is implied. Oy. Will they never get a clue? Squinch Feb 2013 #205

Probably not in this lifetime. n/t chervilant Feb 2013 #209

Sadly, reading through the rest of this thread proves your point. Squinch Feb 2013 #216

So they need to grow up. You know, like people do. Squinch Feb 2013 #204

You think he's brilliant? ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2013 #3

This, IMO... pipi_k Feb 2013 #23

Agreed, Carlin was always witty and had great insights into society. smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #338

I had never heard of him before he was named the host Skittles Feb 2013 #354

Tar and feather me, but I thought it was funny. Zephie Feb 2013 #4

Yeah, bare breast in a rape scene (Jody Foster) are a riot cali Feb 2013 #6

So... why are you mad at the audience? bobclark86 Feb 2013 #15

huh? those were excellent movies. Why the fuck would I be angry at the directors? cali Feb 2013 #22

The director wasn't the one going "HEE HEE HEE BOOBIES!" Scootaloo Feb 2013 #80

way to miss a point and that isnt what she said leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #112

I can't believe they showed that scene while they sang and danced....oh wait.... truebrit71 Feb 2013 #136

And wasn't this stunt a commentary, at least in part... Orsino Feb 2013 #115

To have the whole of your effort reduced to a part of your WCLinolVir Feb 2013 #260

not sorry to say GRENADE Feb 2013 #5

well, people who think women are just objects do think that misogynistic cali Feb 2013 #7

Thank you so much for telling us all how to think. EOTE Feb 2013 #21

Please report for Re-Education Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #41

I'll have to be re-re-re-educated. EOTE Feb 2013 #188

After the first three times you should just give up... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #191

Maybe you could both find an island with a deserted brain WCLinolVir Feb 2013 #262

I'm sensing a Lord of the Flies sort of thing coming on... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #273

Maybe it's the move makers themselves. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #27

Maybe the movie makers and the actresses were not to blame for Seth's joke lunatica Feb 2013 #102

have a nice day GRENADE Feb 2013 #130

It was cheap and demeaning to the professionals involved. CBGLuthier Feb 2013 #8

"The guy is a testament to our times. Ugly and cheap and successful as fuck." HangOnKids Feb 2013 #17

Exactly my thoughts as well. MAD Dave Feb 2013 #29

Indeed he is. nt Nay Feb 2013 #305

And the Academy Awards Committee was FULLY AWARE OF HIS PREVIOUS WORK. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #30

If I could K&R a comment... Chorophyll Feb 2013 #48

Wrapped up in a slimy ooze of narcissism. WCLinolVir Feb 2013 #265

In context, the skit made him "worst host in Oscar history" Beaverhausen Feb 2013 #9

Yeah, I didn't watch the skit but from what I've read deutsey Feb 2013 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #116

Thank you for this post. seabeyond Feb 2013 #10

You bet. It's an excellent analysis of why this was so cali Feb 2013 #16

I didn't see it gollygee Feb 2013 #11

There's a joke to be made here - el_bryanto Feb 2013 #12

But he didn't spread it around equally; women got by far the worst of it. cali Feb 2013 #19

I guess that's fair - el_bryanto Feb 2013 #34

I was not offended Loryn Feb 2013 #13

Did you also find MacFarlane's assertation that he ISN'T a part of that chours funny? bighart Feb 2013 #20

Yes, it was... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #45

Honestly I am not familiar with him or his work. bighart Feb 2013 #165

Sophomoric is pretty much MacFarlance's schtick... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #174

I have watched Family Guy and the repeated message is that woman who are attractive WCLinolVir Feb 2013 #267

So you're suggesting the Peter Griffin is role model for parents? Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #274

Shame on you for not falling in line! EOTE Feb 2013 #24

What if a chorus of straight men sang that song? alp227 Feb 2013 #169

Well then you're a horrible horrible Proles Feb 2013 #236

Well another false equivalency. I didn't see Seth getting kicked in the balls. WCLinolVir Feb 2013 #268

K&R redqueen Feb 2013 #14

Maybe the can even it out next year. sadbear Feb 2013 #18

We saw your junk thelordofhell Feb 2013 #36

Yeah, that's why I only put Harvey Keitel. sadbear Feb 2013 #43

True, but there's always Viggo Mortensen! historylovr Feb 2013 #58

Yeah, that's right! sadbear Feb 2013 #60

Mmmmmmm, Viggo. Blue_In_AK Feb 2013 #106

Saw the first part of it and then changed the channel Jersey Devil Feb 2013 #25

Seth was many things, but "scrubby" he wasn't! As for whether or not the actresses in the song WinkyDink Feb 2013 #26

Alerting ...for using the words "boobs" and "fuck" n/t L0oniX Feb 2013 #28

Makes me want to see it... joeybee12 Feb 2013 #32

how is defending rhianna absurd? backtoblue Feb 2013 #53

She has more money than God, she can leave... joeybee12 Feb 2013 #56

Domestic abuse affects all classes. redqueen Feb 2013 #72

Complex YES! But $$$$ Helps In Walking Away HangOnKids Feb 2013 #87

$$ also helps her abuser to find her. let's not forget he's got money too. backtoblue Feb 2013 #98

Abusers get into your head. Convince you that you deserve it. redqueen Feb 2013 #99

And movies and books sell that fantasy to women joeglow3 Feb 2013 #133

How does the popularity of Fifty Shades of Grey relate to the idea that wealthy women are Squinch Feb 2013 #208

That there is something beyond just avoiding poverty that keeps women with abusers joeglow3 Feb 2013 #277

You seem to be very familiar with this book which you find disgusting. Me? I have not read it. Squinch Feb 2013 #292

This is not an uncommon theme in "romance" novels joeglow3 Feb 2013 #301

There are a ton of books out there which portray men as serial killers. Squinch Feb 2013 #303

Keep being obtuse. joeglow3 Feb 2013 #315

Back at ya. Squinch Feb 2013 #316

Women are lining up to defend these fictional abusers joeglow3 Feb 2013 #317

Dexter. Squinch Feb 2013 #318

One is an individual some think is righting a wrong and the other is just a POS... joeglow3 Feb 2013 #319

You are suggesting that the serial killer may be justified. Squinch Feb 2013 #320

I never said that. I said normal people are more empathetic to vigilante justice joeglow3 Feb 2013 #323

"than to dudes beating the shit out of chicks to get off sexually." todays porn seabeyond Feb 2013 #324

Not that I watch a lot of porn, but is that common in mainstream porn? joeglow3 Feb 2013 #329

As a woman, degreed, fairly well read, I can say I pretty much agree with your analysis. ancianita Feb 2013 #349

you know what i saw with the book. they have become popular with new writers for kindles. seabeyond Feb 2013 #355

I was suprised to see the likes of Walmart and Target cave and carry the books joeglow3 Feb 2013 #356

but, if you watched what had happened seabeyond Feb 2013 #357

It really does make me sad joeglow3 Feb 2013 #358

Been There Done That HangOnKids Feb 2013 #144

Sick. nt redqueen Feb 2013 #276

I'm glad you feel privileged enough to cast judgement, Joeybee Scootaloo Feb 2013 #88

Joeybee Was Voicing An Opinion HangOnKids Feb 2013 #153

It's what's starting to pass for discourse around here, I'm afraid Confusious Feb 2013 #185

Not hard to follow. Try a metaphor. WCLinolVir Feb 2013 #269

This... zaireeka Feb 2013 #33

I'm willing to bet... Bay Boy Feb 2013 #176

Wouldn't Swordfish be a better example SwankyXomb Feb 2013 #239

I haven't seen either movie Bay Boy Feb 2013 #245

"the more I've thought about it the more disgusted I am." Vinnie From Indy Feb 2013 #35

ABC and the producers are as much to blame as McFarland Auggie Feb 2013 #37

Does anyone remember laughter? Zen Democrat Feb 2013 #38

First Beyonce... Now Seth... trumad Feb 2013 #39

No shit. truebrit71 Feb 2013 #68

The boring and the perpetually outraged RetroLounge Feb 2013 #233

I guess your born-again feminism only extends Union Scribe Feb 2013 #294

Yeah it does actually. trumad Feb 2013 #297

I smell Olive Garden breastfeeding Pit Bulls in this thread. nt Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #40

lol treestar Feb 2013 #266

I didn't see it, but really, the point of breasts in movies is almost ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #44

Not in the movies he mentioned. Silkwood, The Accused, Gia cali Feb 2013 #46

I have not seen most those, but I have seen Monster, ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #51

Katherine Hepburn went a whole career without so much as a peek Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #47

Yes, and separate beds were the Hay's Code standard as well cali Feb 2013 #54

Good plan... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #74

Thank you. redqueen Feb 2013 #76

Wrong Hepburn. nt msanthrope Feb 2013 #118

Wrong Hepburn doesn't matter to the outraged RetroLounge Feb 2013 #234

Yeah, cause ***Katherine*** was a young actress when boob shots were all the rage. redqueen Feb 2013 #278

Actually there was a fair amount of nudity or semi-nudity back then. edbermac Feb 2013 #290

Yep. The actresses get it, too. morningfog Feb 2013 #49

In college I used to watch a lot of movies on the weekends with a group of friends. JVS Feb 2013 #166

Interesting point. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #198

I'm a straight male and it even bothered me steve2470 Feb 2013 #50

Theron did not look impressed when they cut to her. I thought it was childish, but no surprise, Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author steve2470 Feb 2013 #75

You saw that she came out later in the opening and danced, right? Beaverhausen Feb 2013 #220

No, did not know that. Damn she's good. nt Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #259

I saw a short moment I appreciated loyalsister Feb 2013 #344

Why would anyone expect differently of MacFarlane? randome Feb 2013 #52

I didn't see the Oscars this year and I refuse to look up this skit on YouTube justiceischeap Feb 2013 #55

That was actually the point that McFarland was making with the song... NewYorkTaxPayer Feb 2013 #137

You might as well have written this excellent post in Swahili Vinnie From Indy Feb 2013 #160

The "outrage bridgade" has every right to be outraged justiceischeap Feb 2013 #173

Excellent.... sendero Feb 2013 #247

Exactly RetroLounge Feb 2013 #237

+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #257

+1. Glad I missed it. nt historylovr Feb 2013 #57

Sorry but all of this "sexist/mysognistic" bullshit really fries my chips.. truebrit71 Feb 2013 #59

i'm sorry but i don't find this position radical on a progressive board. backtoblue Feb 2013 #64

It's an excellent post amuse bouche Feb 2013 #154

Good perspective. I applaud you for going against the grain. randome Feb 2013 #66

Actually I think Tien1985 Feb 2013 #105

Yes. Professional women should just suck it up when their craft is reduced to making jokes about Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #151

Yes. She makes dick jokes all the time. Your point? truebrit71 Feb 2013 #152

To her coworkers? My friend, that is not only unprofessional Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #155

Um, NONE of the professional women you mentioned were at work at the time.... truebrit71 Feb 2013 #158

It was a work event in a social setting. I've been to plenty and never has the emcee Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #164

Nope. It was a social event. truebrit71 Feb 2013 #240

Nope. It is an award ceremony for collegues who are in the same field. The parties come Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #242

So it was a social event then...none of the "victims" of this heinous skit truebrit71 Feb 2013 #244

The private bits that I saw were 30 feet tall at the local cinema. cliffordu Feb 2013 #288

Right. The Oscars have nothing to do with their work. Purely social. Squinch Feb 2013 #213

How much time have you spent thinking about it, and how much time do you think snooper2 Feb 2013 #178

I haven't spent much time on it at all. Your point? Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #182

my point went like a mile past you already... snooper2 Feb 2013 #184

It must have been moving REALLY fast, because I didn't see it either. Squinch Feb 2013 #219

Your point was like the emperors new clothes, visible only to you. WCLinolVir Feb 2013 #272

Here are my sound effects for his point: Squinch Feb 2013 #333

must be a slow 'news' day stillcool Feb 2013 #167

+100000000. Makes DU look a haven for the humorless LittleBlue Feb 2013 #168

The minute you grow a vagina you can tell women to "Fucking. Get. Over." sexism Matariki Feb 2013 #211

I hope you grow a sense of humor first... truebrit71 Feb 2013 #212

You're being defensive. Matariki Feb 2013 #214

Project much? truebrit71 Feb 2013 #243

True itsrobert Feb 2013 #258

Well I'm sure you would say the same to an African American. WCLinolVir Feb 2013 #275

This message was self-deleted by its author smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #263

+10.000 smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #342

Thanks Smirkymonkey Matariki Feb 2013 #351

+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #346

Physician, heal thyself. WOW. Did I miss a war?? WCLinolVir Feb 2013 #271

Why no comment on my post #9? Beaverhausen Feb 2013 #61

Because that doesn't fit in with the outrage meme that this tread is supposed to be about... truebrit71 Feb 2013 #62

The ratings are in........highest since 2005 thelordofhell Feb 2013 #63

I hear Fox News has very high ratings... Squinch Feb 2013 #222

Jury results on your post Autumn Feb 2013 #65

Then you missed the entire point of the alert... truebrit71 Feb 2013 #67

I don't think the six people on that jury missed anything Autumn Feb 2013 #78

Yeah, they kinda did.... truebrit71 Feb 2013 #89

you are right, it sure was a stupid alert Autumn Feb 2013 #95

Now the genius who alerted can't alert again for 24 hours. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #117

OH NOESSSS!!!!! truebrit71 Feb 2013 #122

Sounds like someone needs a binky. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #124

Nah...just sick and tired of the over-reaction and near-constant man-bashing that is allowed on DU.. truebrit71 Feb 2013 #126

The power is yours. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #127

Nah, I'd prefer to stay and try and fight back against the poutrage... truebrit71 Feb 2013 #134

I missed your OPs on all those things. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #139

Wait, they have to be OP's..I can't just respond to individual threads? truebrit71 Feb 2013 #141

I don't know. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #142

Sez the person that keeps replying to my posts... truebrit71 Feb 2013 #145

I'm kicking the thread on my break. Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #147

I can't help myself...must...have...answer...to...strawman.. truebrit71 Feb 2013 #150

Don’t You Have More Important Issues To Think About Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #194

LOL. WCLinolVir Feb 2013 #279

I love this. n/t MadrasT Feb 2013 #308

"near-constant man-bashing" redqueen Feb 2013 #280

really? you wasted folks' time as a way to make a point? cali Feb 2013 #181

Several come to mine too...wanna guess what they are? truebrit71 Feb 2013 #235

lol, not terribly, pumpkin. cali Feb 2013 #291

Oooh...i'm crushed..... truebrit71 Feb 2013 #298

As you surmised, the post was not directed at any DUer cali Feb 2013 #179

Very welcome. Of course it wasn't directed at anyone, that was easy to see Autumn Feb 2013 #186

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #69

Here ya go... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #79

INFIDEL! keroro gunsou Feb 2013 #300

Sure, because people who object are calling for McFarland to be executed. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #82

'cause that'll show US. (...sigh...) Squinch Feb 2013 #225

I thought it was funny and catchy 2Design Feb 2013 #71

Women are often unclothed when raped obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #84

not necessary to get the story point across 2Design Feb 2013 #196

But yet you think rape scenes were funny and catchy in that song?! obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #201

What rape scenes were they singing about? truebrit71 Feb 2013 #238

I admit I laughed but felt bad about it later........ Redford Feb 2013 #77

Exposed breasts during rape scenes are SO FUNNY obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #81

Yeah, because that entire song was about the context in which the boobs were seen yes? truebrit71 Feb 2013 #86

Several of the scenes shown were RAPE scenes obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #96

Wait, they showed the rape scenes as they sang and danced? truebrit71 Feb 2013 #121

This message was self-deleted by its author obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #202

Here's the thing... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #132

what scenes were shown? Beaverhausen Feb 2013 #190

This message was self-deleted by its author obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #203

It seems a good choice to have not watched Lebam in LA Feb 2013 #83

Those are fighting words here on DU. Take a look LibDemAlways Feb 2013 #131

Guess I'll keep my opinion to myself Lebam in LA Feb 2013 #138

No, it's important that all voices are heard. I'm glad LibDemAlways Feb 2013 #146

Thanks Lebam in LA Feb 2013 #249

It was also incredibly fat-shaming AngryAmish Feb 2013 #85

On the plus side, if this is one of the top things that DUers are outraged about, Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #90

It is a nice switch from the "Obama's gonna cut my SS after he drone strikes me!" threads. nt msanthrope Feb 2013 #120

Aw, lighten up! Rider3 Feb 2013 #91

Well, you hit every single "bingo" square there, I think obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #100

Lol! He did, didn't he! Squinch Feb 2013 #218

Grow the fuck up. smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #343

Jesus, seriously? I am not sorry I missed it. MadrasT Feb 2013 #92

I'll stand right next to you, and proud to do so. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #101

I would be truly worried if I were being back slapped by those who are insisting that this crap Squinch Feb 2013 #221

One last point to make here.... Rider3 Feb 2013 #93

How is that hypocritical? Squinch Feb 2013 #227

Because... Rider3 Feb 2013 #327

So are you saying that you think the word fuck is offensive? Squinch Feb 2013 #331

The Guardian said... Little Star Feb 2013 #94

My God. redqueen Feb 2013 #104

i'm learning redqueen. backtoblue Feb 2013 #109

Aw, thank you! redqueen Feb 2013 #123

I appeciate your posts as well redqueen. smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #345

And there we have it. It's so frustrating. Ugh! Little Star Feb 2013 #125

And people have the fucking audicity to wonder why we seem angry? MadrasT Feb 2013 #199

Somehow they are failing to make the connections. redqueen Feb 2013 #223

So that tweet was part of a propaganda campaign now? RZM Feb 2013 #224

Yeah, oppressive 'jokes' are just for fun. redqueen Feb 2013 #252

I just read the entire Guardian essay. Jesus. I am doubly glad I missed the Oscars; I never Nay Feb 2013 #309

I agree Little Star Feb 2013 #310

This is EXACTLY what men do to denigrate women seabeyond Feb 2013 #311

+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #347

the thing, men have no handle and control over women any other fuckin' way. the more they get in seabeyond Feb 2013 #350

Didn't see the show either, but sadly I did go and look up the song on you tube. Squinch Feb 2013 #334

but did you watch what happened before and after the song? Beaverhausen Feb 2013 #339

That was a handy way to work in a song that did all the things I described. Squinch Feb 2013 #341

No wonder I don't watch the Oscars kudzu22 Feb 2013 #97

Maybe it's just me wishing out loud here but.... Foxman58 Feb 2013 #103

Yeah, it is wishful thinking, RC Feb 2013 #171

I don't think boobs are naughty... Bay Boy Feb 2013 #177

I find McFarlane NOT funny, not brilliant, just lame Bake Feb 2013 #107

Seth isn't the only one to blame. LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #108

I am much more outraged by the "Boobs" being blown apart... bvar22 Feb 2013 #110

So next year they'll do one with male actors called "We Saw Your Balls"? SunSeeker Feb 2013 #111

I'm a fairly nihilistic person, but a little Seth McFarlane goes a long ways... Tom Ripley Feb 2013 #113

This is all getting slightly too puritanical for me Fearless Feb 2013 #114

Stop being reasonable!!! I am outraged that you are not similarly outraged!!! truebrit71 Feb 2013 #135

outrage trolls datasuspect Feb 2013 #148

BRAVO! rvt1000rr Feb 2013 #170

Great post XRubicon Feb 2013 #210

The professionally and perpetually outraged are outraged. Duly noted. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #119

^^^^This x 10000000000 truebrit71 Feb 2013 #129

Here's a fact amuse bouche Feb 2013 #128

OK, if Seth wanted to be observant, alp227 Feb 2013 #172

I disagree amuse bouche Feb 2013 #200

Misogyny? Loudestlib Feb 2013 #140

Yea, I'm glad that I didn't watch it ellie Feb 2013 #149

Those breasts didn't get on screen by accident. JVS Feb 2013 #156

Thought it was mildly amusing. Lighten up LittleBlue Feb 2013 #159

Puerile and boring. Typical Seth MacFarlane. jsr Feb 2013 #161

He ain't no Billy Crystal, that's for sure. DinahMoeHum Feb 2013 #162

so done with the Oscars misswizard1 Feb 2013 #175

I'm old enough to remember when Bob Hope and LibDemAlways Feb 2013 #256

This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan Feb 2013 #163

This place whines about the dumbest stuff SpartanDem Feb 2013 #180

We buried Adam Corolla earlier this week. joeunderdog Feb 2013 #254

How about Shatner's joke that McFarlane would come out in 2015 and join the Gay Men's Chorus? Zen Democrat Feb 2013 #183

Too many people say, "Nah, it's FUNNY!" ThatsMyBarack Feb 2013 #187

I might have been offended BainsBane Feb 2013 #189

Love that froggy blob of yours! ThatsMyBarack Feb 2013 #192

Thank you! BainsBane Feb 2013 #195

Ever heard of gaslighting? ohheckyeah Feb 2013 #193

"McFarlane did something outrageous to elicit a response thucythucy Feb 2013 #206

You're welcome. ohheckyeah Feb 2013 #250

...or maybe it's just factually true that there is an over-reaction. NoodleyAppendage Feb 2013 #229

Actually I didn't take much of a position. ohheckyeah Feb 2013 #248

Spot fucking on. nt redqueen Feb 2013 #281

Puerile and boorish . . . makes me glad I didn't watch this shit. HomeboyHombre Feb 2013 #197

OMG, thank you. October Feb 2013 #215

funny how so many people who didn't watch are outraged. It's about context people Beaverhausen Feb 2013 #217

It's called humor...you should try it sometime. NoodleyAppendage Feb 2013 #226

That's pretty much how I experienced it: unpleasant Hekate Feb 2013 #228

I wasn't offended, but it was so lame. Not as lame as his "Arrogant New Englander" act, though. Dash87 Feb 2013 #230

I flat out quit watching Family Guy when they had Rush Limbaugh on the show Jamastiene Feb 2013 #232

Wow, he portrayed Rush in a positive light? Many of his fans/defenders keep saying how smart he is, redqueen Feb 2013 #302

So if 100% of DU agreed with you and showed the correct amount of outrage, then what? RetroLounge Feb 2013 #241

You could ask that about anything posted here Matariki Feb 2013 #251

No, really, you couldn't. RetroLounge Feb 2013 #270

McFarlane is certainly a cheap, tasteless hack but he is merely a symptom of the all-round decay entanglement Feb 2013 #246

+1000 n/t LibDemAlways Feb 2013 #253

It's Your Level Of Hyper-Outrage That's Going To Turn McFarlane Into Another Lenny Bruce. (nt) Paladin Feb 2013 #293

General Discussion: Where Fun Goes to Die name not needed Feb 2013 #255

thank you, cali. undeterred Feb 2013 #261

I'm so glad I missed it. GoneOffShore Feb 2013 #264

But we keep hearing (mostly from guys) that it was "funny"… MrScorpio Feb 2013 #282

We Saw Your Junk. donheld Feb 2013 #284

HA! fugop Feb 2013 #306

It shocks me that so many on DU missed the joke when millions got it. Zen Democrat Feb 2013 #285

The socks tumbling in the dryer were indeed hilarious. BlueCheese Feb 2013 #287

My thoughts exactly. The whole show was fun and entertaining. Sock puppets were GREAT! Owl Feb 2013 #332

I could see being offended. But I don't think everyone has to be offended. BlueCheese Feb 2013 #286

Oh geez. It's not like even the actresses named were bothered ButterflyBlood Feb 2013 #289

And the "it's okay he's a liberal" excuse is absurd Union Scribe Feb 2013 #295

Did the producers know who Serh MacFarlane is? Jumpin Jack Fletch Feb 2013 #296

Heidi Klum, Britney Spears and Others Show Off Major Cleavage at Oscar Parties Zax2me Feb 2013 #299

Because, you know, if you don't cover up, you deserve whatever anyone says about you. Squinch Feb 2013 #337

It had all the sophistication of a frat house skit. Beacool Feb 2013 #307

McFarlane is brilliant? For a 7th grader, maybe. Bake Feb 2013 #312

McFarlane was pathetic when he hosted SNL. Bake Feb 2013 #313

A revealing insight from Salon: redqueen Feb 2013 #314

So now we have "acceptable" Dick Humor by dickbrains. Har-de-har-har. Dicks. ancianita Feb 2013 #322

yea. i took note, that the violation is a joke... a laugh, a giggle. we are told, her fault seabeyond Feb 2013 #325

Sigh, yes. And people here will actually blame the women, or minimize the problem, redqueen Feb 2013 #326

a decade ago we would all agree that was simply wrong. now, too many men do shit like this, seabeyond Feb 2013 #328

I have never watched the Oscars Kolesar Feb 2013 #330

I was watching the video of that song AsahinaKimi Feb 2013 #335

is being cruel to someone funny? sigmasix Feb 2013 #336

My wife thought that song was HILARIOUS (I'm not much of an Oscars watcher myself). Grown2Hate Feb 2013 #340

Take the examples referenced in the skit... brooklynite Feb 2013 #348