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119. Why would you say President Hillary Clinton?

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:09 PM

Feb 2013

By 2020, President Obama could be finishing up his third term, and hopefully by then our presidents won't be restricted to four year terms. He will have nominated enough justices to the Supreme Court that he could just merge the Executive and Judicial branches and simplify things.

Seriously though, are you willing to throw freedom and liberty away for what "might" provide safety? I understand we need more checks and in some cases restrictions. But talk of "gun-free America" is only going to give the NRA more um... ammo.

I agree with this blogger:

"In the end, the main point is that casting gun violence as an American problem or an American phenomenon is a cop out. Reducing gun violence in the U.S. is going to require the same changes as will reducing gun violence in the Philippines. And these changes have a lot more to do with people's faith in the honesty and fairness of their government and legal systems -- and the respect for these institutions show for individual rights -- than they do with guns."

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/marni-soupcoff/gun-violence-us-philippines_b_2528902.html

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Congratulations Mike Bloomberg one day at a time closer to a Gun-Free America [View all] graham4anything Feb 2013 OP

Is the campaign for guns on school busses over, then? Kolesar Feb 2013 #1

God bless Michael Bloomberg! The Great Equalizer. graham4anything Feb 2013 #9

If that kind of police state makes you feels secure hobbit709 Feb 2013 #18

And you know what FDR's Atty Gen & USSC appointee Robert Jackson said, too. Don't you? baldguy Feb 2013 #61

This fantasy will require a constitutional amendment, no? pipoman Feb 2013 #31

"Bloomberg Wants To Demolish Public Libraries Before He Goes" Union Scribe Feb 2013 #2

"Bloomberg of NYC donates $1 million to Los Angeles school board election" Union Scribe Feb 2013 #3

"Union-busting, Bloomberg-Style" Union Scribe Feb 2013 #4

"Mayor Bloomberg: Tax Hikes on Rich �Drive Out the 1 Percent� Union Scribe Feb 2013 #5

(Bloomberg's) "Stop and Frisk: racist�and ineffective" Union Scribe Feb 2013 #6

irrelevant to the NRA/Gun issue. Ask Christine Quinn, the next mayor about this. graham4anything Feb 2013 #11

I would prefer a Democrat Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #28

But definitive of Bloomberg, stop and frisk racist policy. This thread is about Blomberg. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #62

Message auto-removed Cork Feb 2013 #74

Union Scribe, I agree with you that Bloomberg has been a nightmare for most of us in NYC. Squinch Feb 2013 #67

It's definitely the best thing he spends money on. Union Scribe Feb 2013 #94

A raise sometime this decade would be nice. Squinch Feb 2013 #97

F**k Bloomberg HiPointDem Feb 2013 #7

Agreed... Whats_that Feb 2013 #13

Republicans and their fans: don't trust them. nt Union Scribe Feb 2013 #8

The NRA is dead. graham4anything Feb 2013 #10

So why do assault weapons bans keep failing all over America? hack89 Feb 2013 #12

Because we need a GUN-FREE America (except for law enforcement while on duty) graham4anything Feb 2013 #15

The NRA could disappear tomorrow and it would not make a difference hack89 Feb 2013 #16

And when people propagate this 'gun free' nonsense they just mean you and geckosfeet Feb 2013 #20

or the vast criminal enterprises in this country Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #44

BINGO! and there are MORE anti-gun voters in important states than pro-gun. graham4anything Feb 2013 #21

Go back and look at the battle ground states Obama needed to win. hack89 Feb 2013 #23

President Obama is not running. Hillary/Napolitano will win Texas, Arizona, Georgia,etc.etc. graham4anything Feb 2013 #24

This is what Janet Napolitano said about gun control hack89 Feb 2013 #25

note the word framework. NEW COURT NEW INTERPRETATION OF 2nd. graham4anything Feb 2013 #29

You have a vivid imagination. hack89 Feb 2013 #30

This sounds so... pipoman Feb 2013 #40

Like corporate personhood? To every season, turn, turn, turn graham4anything Feb 2013 #42

Hillary supports the Second Amendment hack89 Feb 2013 #26

Curious - did she ever define "bear arms"? Quite a few think it means "militia service". jmg257 Feb 2013 #37

I am assuming she supports the Democratic party platform hack89 Feb 2013 #38

again, read answer above. Noone in 2008 would disagree. This however is 2013 graham4anything Feb 2013 #39

Why not simply make Mike Bloomberg president ? nt hack89 Feb 2013 #41

I am for Hillary/Napolitano in 2016 and 2020 graham4anything Feb 2013 #45

So you think it is good that rich private citizens can influence the political process hack89 Feb 2013 #60

Nice distraction. This thread is about the NRA and Guns. Have a nice day. Over and out. graham4anything Feb 2013 #63

"Congratulations Mike Bloomberg .." Your OP. nt hack89 Feb 2013 #64

Yup. The NRA lost big time. Thanks to Mike Bloomberg. graham4anything Feb 2013 #68

So we are talking about rich men influencing the political system, aren't we? hack89 Feb 2013 #73

I hear crickets... derby378 Feb 2013 #129

Why would you say President Hillary Clinton? Left2Tackle Feb 2013 #119

When I see people (constantly) praise right wing racist union-busters on DU Union Scribe Feb 2013 #14

Bloomberg is a liberal democratic private citizen who backed President Obama twice graham4anything Feb 2013 #17

Explain his "liberal democratic" stances I've linked to. Union Scribe Feb 2013 #19

The US is one candidate closer to a gun free America. graham4anything Feb 2013 #22

So, again, you refuse to denounce right wing policies. Union Scribe Feb 2013 #34

I reckon you didn't knock on one door for Barack Obama Kolesar Feb 2013 #27

Here's what you can reckon: Union Scribe Feb 2013 #36

Me and labor organized two antibush rallies nine years ago Kolesar Feb 2013 #52

Congrats and thanks Union Scribe Feb 2013 #56

Yup. I am working for a guns free in the streets America graham4anything Feb 2013 #66

You're an adorable little authoritarian, aren't you? n/t Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #130

Bloomberg is doing great things on the gun issue. EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #32

I don't agree with Bloomberg on much, but I appreciate his stance on gun control davidpdx Feb 2013 #33

I wish him luck in his battles against the gun nutters RedstDem Feb 2013 #35

Greens, Peace and Freedom Party, "lefty independents"... earn you a pizza whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #43

Nader thew the 2000 election to Bush. Just say NO to guns and 3rd party presidential runs graham4anything Feb 2013 #46

If Bloomberg did run as an independent would he have your support? whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #48

NEVER. 100% only vote for any democratic candidate for president on the ballot graham4anything Feb 2013 #51

Lol! What if Jeb, Sarah, or Ron run as democrats? whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #54

I would eagerly now vote for Charlie Crist for anything. He is now a democratic person. graham4anything Feb 2013 #57

"But corporate personhood was given to the world thanks to Ralph Nader and 2000" whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #59

"But corporate personhood was given to the world thanks to Ralph Nader and 2000." Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2013 #112

... and he was 100% a Republican when he bought his own first election. harmonicon Feb 2013 #49

Good luck reaching this one whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #50

John V. Lindsay was the greatest liberal/populist ever. Nuff said. graham4anything Feb 2013 #53

Bloomberg has 25 Billion and is the 10th richest person in the US. Grayson has 30-40 Million Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #65

Grayson is a few years ago the 11th richest person in Congress.CEO of a Top 100 Wall St. company graham4anything Feb 2013 #69

Mike Bloomberg is a piece of shit. (nt) harmonicon Feb 2013 #47

Never mind that.. pipoman Feb 2013 #58

What does that have to do with anything? Vulgar name calling is meaningless graham4anything Feb 2013 #70

Speaking of "vulgar name calling," we have a yapping gnat running around these parts... derby378 Feb 2013 #84

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #86

Aren't you the same poster who wanted Colin Powell for SoS? Upton Feb 2013 #55

So? He endorsed President Obama in 2008 and 2012. That was welcomed and needed. graham4anything Feb 2013 #71

He also covered up My Lai and lied about the Iraq war.. Upton Feb 2013 #72

I am for a gun free (private citizens) America. YOu can argue other issues elsewhere. graham4anything Feb 2013 #78

But you didn't say, "Congratulations Ms. Kelly." Dr. Strange Feb 2013 #83

So you are a single issue voter? pipoman Feb 2013 #133

That is off topic. If you wish to start a thread on that, open a new topic graham4anything Feb 2013 #134

Really more inconvenient than off topic.. pipoman Feb 2013 #135

Disgusting that someone would come on here to cheer a Billionaire Republican Fascist TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #75

Message auto-removed Cork Feb 2013 #77

Bloomberg is a member of the Bloomberg Party. dairydog91 Feb 2013 #80

It's beautiful day in the neighborhood of America today. One day at a time, moving forward. graham4anything Feb 2013 #79

This is the most LOL-worthy post I've seen in a bit. dairydog91 Feb 2013 #76

Shhhhh now! Sissyk Feb 2013 #122

Gun-free America... pipi_k Feb 2013 #81

Cigarettes aren't illegal, and most people now don't smoke. graham4anything Feb 2013 #82

Human nature pipi_k Feb 2013 #114

STREETS. off the streets. graham4anything Feb 2013 #115

OK, so off the streets, then... pipi_k Feb 2013 #117

Fatalism is not a solution. It hasn't worked so far, has it? CTyankee Feb 2013 #90

The numbers of people pipi_k Feb 2013 #116

We can also change some minds with tighter control. Just as with drunk driving. CTyankee Feb 2013 #127

Regardless of where you stand on guns, congratulating Bloomberg is strange. aikoaiko Feb 2013 #85

Actually I did on a thread yesterday. graham4anything Feb 2013 #87

Message auto-removed Cork Feb 2013 #88

more name calling. But you got it a little mixed up graham4anything Feb 2013 #91

Message auto-removed Cork Feb 2013 #95

I will head to the mini-golf course graham4anything Feb 2013 #107

" This thread was a different one than someone else put up" huh? aikoaiko Feb 2013 #104

This thread is about THIS issue graham4anything Feb 2013 #105

I'm no fan of Mayor Bloomberg but will give him his due on this one thing nt riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #89

congratulations on keeping this discussion on point and not letting yourself be dragged into CTyankee Feb 2013 #92

Utter nonsense. Union Scribe Feb 2013 #98

because you are union and pro-education, I will not be angry with you. CTyankee Feb 2013 #125

Why are so many in this thread defending the NRA? Robb Feb 2013 #93

Are there no liberals to praise for gun control? Union Scribe Feb 2013 #96

If it wasn't all DU's Gun Squad making that argument, I might buy it. Robb Feb 2013 #99

The only thing being pulled Union Scribe Feb 2013 #101

I bow to the power of your Churchillian rhetoric. Robb Feb 2013 #102

Why would you want the NRA to keep their monopoly of this issue? graham4anything Feb 2013 #103

Dream on. former9thward Feb 2013 #100

That's right. Toni dropped out the day after Bloomy sent in the money. graham4anything Feb 2013 #109

Expend capital??? former9thward Feb 2013 #118

This is the funniest thing I ever heard. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL graham4anything Feb 2013 #120

I knew you would not be able to answer it. former9thward Feb 2013 #124

This is 2013 not 1960s. Everything is different now. Forward not back. graham4anything Feb 2013 #126

Who would have thought a billionaire would spend millions to attack a Dem in a small house race hughee99 Feb 2013 #106

This is 100% about guns and bullets and the NRA (one and the same) graham4anything Feb 2013 #108

If I had set up the circumstance without giving specifics hughee99 Feb 2013 #110

This topic is about guns and the NRA. graham4anything Feb 2013 #111

If you're congratulating Bloomberg for Robin Kelly's win hughee99 Feb 2013 #113

It's funny watching gun trolls get all upset about this OP. DanTex Feb 2013 #121

The downfall of the right wing Robb Feb 2013 #123

Enjoy your delusions, but we will never have a "Gun-Free America." Never. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #128

In your home. Not in the streets. graham4anything Feb 2013 #131

You said 'Gun-Free America.' You didn't distinguish. Common Sense Party Feb 2013 #132