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In reply to the discussion: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism [View all]Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)1. Some of Manning's testimony...
12:55 PM: Bradley finished reading his entire statement, a nearly two-hour defense of whistleblowing, transparency, and the refusal to be complicit in that which you cannot abide. I believed and still believe these are some of most important documents of our time, he said of the war logs he passed to WikiLeaks. Bradley affirmed his belief that the documents he released needed to be in the public realm (specifically the American public), that he only wanted docs I was absolutely sure wouldnt cause harm to the United States, and that hed hoped the release would result in domestic debate and a reevaluation of the United States war on terror.
He became depressed with the situation we were mired in in Iraq. In counterterrorism operations, he said, the U.S. became obsessed with capturing and killing people.
Bradley discussed his horror at the Collateral Murder video of US Apache soldiers gunning down Reuters journalists and those who came to rescue the injured. He said the U.S. gunner who wanted to shoot the wounded in Collateral Murder video seemed similar to a child torturing ants w/ a magnifying glass. He was also aghast at the way that David Finkel had characterized the killings in his book, The Good Soldiers. When he learned that Reuters had attempted to acquire the video and was stonewalled by the U.S., Bradley said hed wanted to try to get the video to Reuters so theyd be able to view the incident and the U.S. rules of engagement so their journalists could better avoid this from happening again.
He also revealed that while he was on a mid-tour leave in the U.S., hed wanted to give documents to the Washington Post, but that the reporter or editor he talked to didnt seem interested, especially without more information. He then called the New York Times public editor and left a message leaving his phone number no one called him back. Hed wanted to try to talk to Politico about sharing documents with them, but he was stranded in Maryland when a blizzard hit. He then turned to WikiLeaks.
He said he had many conversations in anonymous, secure chat rooms with someone who called him/herself Nathaniel, whom Bradley believed to be someone who worked for WikiLeaks, namely Julian Assange or Daniel Domscheit-Berg. He said that he would occasionally propose certain documents to Nathaniel, but that no one from [WikiLeaks] pressured him to give more information.
The decisions to send were my own, he said, and I take full responsibility.
He became depressed with the situation we were mired in in Iraq. In counterterrorism operations, he said, the U.S. became obsessed with capturing and killing people.
Bradley discussed his horror at the Collateral Murder video of US Apache soldiers gunning down Reuters journalists and those who came to rescue the injured. He said the U.S. gunner who wanted to shoot the wounded in Collateral Murder video seemed similar to a child torturing ants w/ a magnifying glass. He was also aghast at the way that David Finkel had characterized the killings in his book, The Good Soldiers. When he learned that Reuters had attempted to acquire the video and was stonewalled by the U.S., Bradley said hed wanted to try to get the video to Reuters so theyd be able to view the incident and the U.S. rules of engagement so their journalists could better avoid this from happening again.
He also revealed that while he was on a mid-tour leave in the U.S., hed wanted to give documents to the Washington Post, but that the reporter or editor he talked to didnt seem interested, especially without more information. He then called the New York Times public editor and left a message leaving his phone number no one called him back. Hed wanted to try to talk to Politico about sharing documents with them, but he was stranded in Maryland when a blizzard hit. He then turned to WikiLeaks.
He said he had many conversations in anonymous, secure chat rooms with someone who called him/herself Nathaniel, whom Bradley believed to be someone who worked for WikiLeaks, namely Julian Assange or Daniel Domscheit-Berg. He said that he would occasionally propose certain documents to Nathaniel, but that no one from [WikiLeaks] pressured him to give more information.
The decisions to send were my own, he said, and I take full responsibility.
http://www.bradleymanning.org/news/live-blog-updates-from-ft-meade-where-bradley-manning-to-explain-guilty-plea-and-wikileaks-releases
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"Americans love non-conformity and often reward it with the metal of honor (sic).” Lenny Bruce
deutsey
Mar 2013
#46
I suspect the defense will ask for another delay of trial after this round of hearings.
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#11
I was thrilled to see that he didn't "turn" on Wikileaks... he stuck with his ideals...
Luminous Animal
Mar 2013
#19
As you have been told time and time again, the organization that manages Wikileaks' funds
Luminous Animal
Mar 2013
#28
The excuses for Assange are endless. Your second paragraph is a rather revealing analogy. nt
msanthrope
Mar 2013
#31
Let us know when any charges are filed, okay? Three years, no charges, political
sabrina 1
Mar 2013
#42
I suspect no charges will ever be filed nor were they ever intending to file them.
sabrina 1
Mar 2013
#72
Um, that is from a live blogger who has asked to wait for her final report...
Luminous Animal
Mar 2013
#21
"Hilary Clinton, and several thousand diplomats around the world are going to have a heart attack
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#15
Actually, it has quite a bit to do with intent. Motive is great, but not a requirement. What that
msanthrope
Mar 2013
#24
I might indeed have been persuadable of that claim, had there been a small identifiable cluster
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#25
Manning admitted today that he didn't seek official channels--i.e. whistleblower status--
msanthrope
Mar 2013
#26
And you need to read some of the facts of this case. He reported torture something
sabrina 1
Mar 2013
#49
Well said if you support torture and war crimes going unpunished. Very sad to see
sabrina 1
Mar 2013
#59
Crowley was looking for an excuse to resign, having already applied for the Omar Bradley chair,
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#38
"... I was asked .. why the United States government was "torturing" Private First Class Bradley
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#61
The whistle blower goes to trial and the people whose crimes he exposed goes free.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2013
#33